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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Thursday 26 August 10 11:29 BST (UK) »Quote
particularly as he died on the field in WWI.
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30-40% of the plots were labelled "cold".
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Thursday 26 August 10 10:48 BST (UK) »
Yes, we asked the cemetery records person and she (in quite a few years of transerring records to the 'puter and dealing with the public) had never had cause to question what it meant.
The north / south thing - no, because some of the graves so labelled are in the middle of the cemetery.
Coloured people / suicides / cremations - on reflection unlikely, as when we compared notes some 30-40% of the plots were labelled "cold". Our ancestor definitely fits none of these, particularly as he died on the field in WWI.
I mentioned colouring plans as I am a civil engineer regularly dealing with plans and drawings from the 1840s onwards (particularly land boundary plans) and these are often hand coloured (labour must have been cheap - it takes ages to do with a brush and ink!). I'll ask a few more questions when we go back.
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, plenty of interesting reading!
The north / south thing - no, because some of the graves so labelled are in the middle of the cemetery.
Coloured people / suicides / cremations - on reflection unlikely, as when we compared notes some 30-40% of the plots were labelled "cold". Our ancestor definitely fits none of these, particularly as he died on the field in WWI.
I mentioned colouring plans as I am a civil engineer regularly dealing with plans and drawings from the 1840s onwards (particularly land boundary plans) and these are often hand coloured (labour must have been cheap - it takes ages to do with a brush and ink!). I'll ask a few more questions when we go back.
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, plenty of interesting reading!
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 19:43 BST (UK) »
Not coloured people (assuming you mean non-caucasian 
) but it would make a typical entry read "Ground coloured green", but why should this be? Is it referring to colouring in of a plan maybe?
) but it would make a typical entry read "Ground coloured green", but why should this be? Is it referring to colouring in of a plan maybe?
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 18:14 BST (UK) »
I think Toni is on to something, as I've just checked and the entries (I have) so dated are all post 1894?
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 17:28 BST (UK) »
You might be onto something, as (for the limited examples I've got photocopies of) "Common Ground" never appears with "Cold Ground" (just to irritate, I've found a Ground Cold!!)
I'm reasonably sure its an abbreviated word starting col- and ending in -ed, probably -ed.
Hmm.
I'm reasonably sure its an abbreviated word starting col- and ending in -ed, probably -ed.
Hmm.
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: "Cold ground"
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 16:43 BST (UK) »
Ta Valda, it definitely isn't "consecrated" or "unconsecrated", they appear as seperate words. It's always written "cold ground". I'm afraid I can't do an example electronically!
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Graveyards and Gravestones / "Cold ground"
« on: Wednesday 25 August 10 15:53 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know, in cemetery records, what the entry "Cold ground" might mean? It appears in the column marked "Situation of Grave or Vault", together with a description of the type of grave concerned. The question relates particularly to Colne cemetery, Lancs, UK.
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Cheshire / Re: Ellis Families Runcorn Cheshire
« on: Monday 19 July 10 17:35 BST (UK) »I have your Ellis family back to Samuel and Margaret Ellis and son, Joseph, bp 20 Jul 1800 in Frodsham. Joseph was a tailor and married Martha?. Children: Charles, John, Margaret, Samuel and Hannah.
Son Charles married Ann?. Charles also a tailor and lived in Weston. Children: John,, James, Sarah Ann and Joseph.
Joseph married Sarah Ratcliffe who was sister of my 2xGreat Grandfather, Thomas Ratcliffe.
Joseph Ellis (20/7/1800) is the brother of my ggggfather Thomas (bpt 14/2/1796 in Frodsham)
Have you managed to get further back than Samual and Margaret (Williams) on the Ellis line?
My lot spread south-east towards Northwich ...
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