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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 19 May 20 20:54 BST (UK) »
If you're willing to post the name, location and time-frame of your TEBAY ancestor I may be able to help?
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Monday 18 May 20 21:38 BST (UK) »
My understanding is that Liverpool pilot Philip John Holt TEBAY was born 1928 in Wallasey, son of another Liverpool pilot Cecil Hugh Forrest TEBAY (b1885 London) who perished (along with my relative Thomas Ledsham EVANS) in the CHARLES LIVINGSTON incident in November 1939.
Cecil was a son of William Holt TEBAY (b1857 Poynton Cheshire), he a son of Septimus TEBAY (b1836 Winstanley, Lancashire), he a son of Thomas TEBAY who married Margaret SHAW on 4 December 1826 in All Saints Church, Wigan.
The name is relatively rare, so there's a good chance your female TEBAY might belong to the same family.
Cecil was a son of William Holt TEBAY (b1857 Poynton Cheshire), he a son of Septimus TEBAY (b1836 Winstanley, Lancashire), he a son of Thomas TEBAY who married Margaret SHAW on 4 December 1826 in All Saints Church, Wigan.
The name is relatively rare, so there's a good chance your female TEBAY might belong to the same family.
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Wednesday 27 September 17 09:05 BST (UK) »
You should be aware that the MMM Archives are closed until Spring 2018 owing to 'developments'.
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Thursday 29 October 15 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Hello pedude
The fact that (according to Youde) your W Pinnington retired in 1871 suggests that even if he did die at sea three years later this wouldn't have been in the course of duty (as was unfortunately the case with at least four of my own Liverpool Pilot relatives).
Free BMD has the death of a 50 year-old William PINNINGTON in the December Quarter of 1874, ref West Derby 8b/422. There's no absolute guarantee it's your man, of course, but I'd say it's worth purchasing a copy death certificate from the GRO just in case it is?
As regards your general question, it's been at the back of my mind for some time to get myself over to the Liverpool Maritime Museum to look up some of my own family in the Pilots records. I've made a note of your William PENNINGTON/PINNINGTON and will do my best to fit this one in too if I have time.
The fact that (according to Youde) your W Pinnington retired in 1871 suggests that even if he did die at sea three years later this wouldn't have been in the course of duty (as was unfortunately the case with at least four of my own Liverpool Pilot relatives).
Free BMD has the death of a 50 year-old William PINNINGTON in the December Quarter of 1874, ref West Derby 8b/422. There's no absolute guarantee it's your man, of course, but I'd say it's worth purchasing a copy death certificate from the GRO just in case it is?
As regards your general question, it's been at the back of my mind for some time to get myself over to the Liverpool Maritime Museum to look up some of my own family in the Pilots records. I've made a note of your William PENNINGTON/PINNINGTON and will do my best to fit this one in too if I have time.
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Offer:Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Sunday 18 January 15 16:05 GMT (UK) »
My understanding is that a Marconi Operator was one of only three people saved from the ALFRED H READ - one (a pilot apprentice) succumbing a short time later. So the indications are that Jack REID wasn't in fact lost in the tragedy?
He wouldn't of course have featured as one of 'The Men' in Barry Youde's book anyway, since this lists only qualified Liverpool Pilots.
He wouldn't of course have featured as one of 'The Men' in Barry Youde's book anyway, since this lists only qualified Liverpool Pilots.
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Occupation Interests / Re: Liverpool Pilots
« on: Friday 07 February 14 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the useful tip, Ainslie - found one of mine in Toxteth Park (David EVANS d1913) plus the wife of another (Margaret Elizabeth EVANS d1865).
Margaret Elizabeth's husband William EVANS (b1809 New Brighton) was lost at sea in the wreck of the Norwegian brig SIBAL off Point Lynas on 9 December 1874 so has no grave. His elder brother George EVANS (b1804 Meols) was drowned in the River Mersey on 3 January 1849 and buried in St James' Cemetery in Liverpool, which if I'm not mistaken was the traditional resting place of pilots lost in the course of duty when a body was recovered.
Margaret Elizabeth's husband William EVANS (b1809 New Brighton) was lost at sea in the wreck of the Norwegian brig SIBAL off Point Lynas on 9 December 1874 so has no grave. His elder brother George EVANS (b1804 Meols) was drowned in the River Mersey on 3 January 1849 and buried in St James' Cemetery in Liverpool, which if I'm not mistaken was the traditional resting place of pilots lost in the course of duty when a body was recovered.
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 12 March 13 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a copy of your ancestor's APPLICATION for his master's certificate?
If it has survived, this should list all vessels on which he served for four years prior to his application.
If it has survived, this should list all vessels on which he served for four years prior to his application.
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Monday 19 November 12 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi njones68
Just as well your Samuel JONES wasn't on board the CHARLES LIVINGSTON on the night of 26th November 1939, when she met such a tragic, ignominious end off Ainsdale - an incident which claimed the life of one of my own relatives Thomas Ledsham EVANS :-
http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/pilotboat1.html
Just as well your Samuel JONES wasn't on board the CHARLES LIVINGSTON on the night of 26th November 1939, when she met such a tragic, ignominious end off Ainsdale - an incident which claimed the life of one of my own relatives Thomas Ledsham EVANS :-
http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/pilotboat1.html
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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 12 June 12 17:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Polly
You'll find information as regards visiting times, booking-in etc at :-
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/visitarchive.aspx
Note that it's the Archives you want, not the Museum.
Good luck
You'll find information as regards visiting times, booking-in etc at :-
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/archive/visitarchive.aspx
Note that it's the Archives you want, not the Museum.
Good luck