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Northamptonshire / Re: N0RTHAMPTON - Home for illegitimate babies
« on: Sunday 27 January 13 11:10 GMT (UK)  »
A list of homes in the Northampton area: 
There were a number of Unmarried Mothers Homes in the Northampton area:
 
Elmleigh.
114 Harleston Road
Northampton.
(It was run and/or used by the National Adoption Society)
 
St Saviour's
103 Harleston Road
Kingsthorpe
Northampton.
(Run and/or used by Leicester Diocesan Board of Social Responsibility
 C of E diocese Peterborough)
 
Spencer Leeson House
11-12 Langham Place
Northampton.
(Run and/or used by Peterborough Diocesan Family and Social Welfare Council)
 
9 St George's Avenue
Northampton.
(As above)

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Northamptonshire / Re: N0RTHAMPTON - Home for illegitimate babies
« on: Sunday 27 January 13 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello.  I was born at St Saviours Home for Unmarried Mothers in 1961.  The address is 103 Harlestone Road, Northampton.  It is now a convent although the nuns are very welcoming!  It was featured in Long Lost Family in 2011.  I have set up a f/b page for St Saviours Mother and Baby Home very recently to allow people to tell their stories/find each other.  Not sure if I'm allowed to post that one here?  sorry if not!!

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I am doing much better with my searching now... things are falling into place nicely!  thanks for all the help.

Can anyone tell me though, is it usual for ages to be a bit 'off'??   Joseph Lawrence, christened 1815 (same parents as on death cert), manages to get married at 'age 19' in 1838 (surely he would have been 24?).  all the way through on the Census returns and his death cert his age is more like a birth date of 1818, not 1815...  did they randomly chop years off records just to confuse us?!  All the other info adds up, i.e. profession, spouse, parents, children etc... 

Also, I know that him and his wife, Elizabeth Morris, were both born in England and went to Edinburgh with their eldest son, Laban (christened 1841 in England).  trouble is, I can't find an 1841 Census for either England or Scotland for them...  is it possible they were travelling up to Scotland at the time?   Laban was born in 1840 I think, so he would have been a baby.  If they were staying somewhere would they have been listed as 'travellers' or something?

Thanks for any help!
Tracey


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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« on: Saturday 02 February 08 22:17 GMT (UK)  »
sorry for calling you 'Roy' !!!  I think i've been at the computer too long!

Thanks for the info, will check it out.

Tracey

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« on: Saturday 02 February 08 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
Roy

I have been looking for the same info at the same time!!  goodness you're quick!  I've gone a bit further:
Jane died in May 1885 in childbirth, and then Laban died in 1887 of cancer?.  All those children left alone!!  it's all a bit sad. 

Any ideas what would have happened to the children?  7 of them ranging from about 7 years old to 20.

Have found Laban (jnr) death cert for 1926... he was married to Elizabeth McLeod who happens to be his Auntie Matilda's daughter (was that legal?). 

T

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« on: Saturday 02 February 08 18:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, it is definitely an 'L' as it matches the Lawrence...  so it looks like 'Laban'.  Will try searching for this but i think i have already done this and not found anything!!

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« on: Saturday 02 February 08 18:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Roy

Here goes...

Firstly, it took me ages to decipher his name - it looked like Faban, or Laban and then I realised it was probably Johan through looking at other handwriting on the certificates.  Of course, I may be wrong!!!  now i'm looking at the first letter, it doesn't look anything like the 'J' for Joseph... it looks more like a swirly 'L'. 

anyway...

Joseph Lawrence b. 1815 married Elizabeth Morris b. ?.  Found Josephs death cert with correct spouse, profession, age and area (Edinburgh).  On this certificate a Johan (Faban/Laban) Lawrence, Son,  is the informant.

1851 Census - Johan Lawrence is listed as Son, age 10 and a scholar
1861 Census - Johan Lawrence is listed as Son, age 20 and a Cabinet Maker-Journeyman
1871 Census - No Johan as he has probably moved out by then

As to brothers & sisters:

Johan 1841 ????

Joseph 1849 to 1930 - married Agnes Grieve in 1869.  They had 7 children.  (This is the family line that leads down to me eventually!).

Matilda 1850 to 1943 - Married Alexander Campbell McLeod and had 6 children, Alexander died around 1871 and she then married William Sutherland

James 1853 to 1893 - Married Ellen/Helen, died a pauper in St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, 2 children died in early infancy, his wife died in 1891. 

Elizabeth 1855 to 1885 - Married Thomas Dick - 1 child

Alice 1860 - can't find anything out about her either!

It looks like the family moved to Edinburgh just before Joseph was born...  Joseph, Elizabeth and 'Johan' all have ENGLAND as 'where born' on their Census returns.  Son Joseph has 'EDINBURGH' as do the rest of the children after.  I have no idea why they moved to Edinburgh...

I hope you can help - this family tree stuff is so important to me cos I was adopted as a baby and this is the family I might have had if my lovely Grandfather had been listened to when he said 'why don't we keep her?'.   I did eventually find my natural mother and her father was Jock Lawrence - this is the line I am tracing back. 

Tracey


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Hi Roy

I have a question for you!  AFter a false start I am now looking at the Edinburgh area where the Laurances moved to in roughly 1850.  The eldest son, Johan, who was born in England in 1841 ish was a Cabinet maker journeyman - however, he disappears after his fathers death in 1863 and I can't find him in either England or Scotland!

Would his name have been listed as 'John' rather than 'Johan'????  Also, a bit of a moan, how come Scottish records are sooooooooooo good and you can look at the certificates on line.... English records you have to guess that you have the right one and then order it!!!   

In all my searching i have to say that the Scotland part was by far the easiest - they seem to have really got a hold on this ancestory stuff and even very old certificates are all available to view online - and the people are really helpful...    there isn't even an email address for 'Ancestory.co.uk' in England. 

any ideas on what i can do next to find this 'Johan Lawrence/Laurance'???

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Hi

that is the trouble, i don't have any info on John at all other than his marriage to Eleanora.  And that only says that they were married and which parish. 'John Lawrence & Eleanora Shand both in the parish were married'.   

... back to the search...

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