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Perthshire / Re: Lauder's, Perthshire.
« on: Friday 20 November 09 05:08 GMT (UK)  »
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David Married Catherine Ross Miller  and died in New Zealand on 7/7/1924.  They had William Lauder bn 14/11/1878, Alexander Lauder bn 7/3/1880, David Lauder bn 1881 and Margaret Lauder bn 12/8/1885 and another unknown.  David emmigrated in NZ on the Nelson which arrived at Port Chalmers 26/12/1875.
Emmigrated from Glasgow to Lylttleton on Jessie Osborne on 6 Nov 1875 and arrived on 30 Jan 1876.  After Jane died in 1884, he apparently left Ireland & Co, flourmillers in Oamaru and went north to look for better work. He was apparently killed in a railway accident shortly afterwards although there is no death record or certificate. The 4 children were fostered by a family named Wylie in Oamaru. Apparently David and John did not always see eye to eye, possible why they did not take the 4 orphaned children.
John McKay Lauder was born in Falkirk, Scotland on 18 November 1852. Falkirk is a small village in Perthshire some 30 kilometres from Glasgow where his father William Lauder grew up. John was the second son of William and Janet (nee McKay) who had a family of seven. Little is known of William's background at this time, except that he was one of seven children of David Lauder and Margaret Anderson who were born around 1788. Jane was born Jane Bradley on 21 October 1849. She was the third of a family of five to John Bradley and Elizabeth Robb who lived in nearby Perth.


John was a Candle Maker by trade. He married Jane on 24 June 1874 in Perth. Records of their children born in Scotland are somewhat vague. Information passed down through the family suggests that they had two children who both died in their infancy. However, International Genealogical Index (IGI) records held by the Mormon Church and the absence of any children in the shipping records confirm that only one child was born to them in February 1875. She was christened Jane Bradley Lauder, however, she died on 29 June 1875 at the age of only 4 months. A headstone in her memory stands in the Perth cemetery. It also has an inscription on it recording the death of John's father, William, on 19 August 1891 at the age of 72 years. John and Jane erected the headstone presumably before they emigrated to New Zealand. William's inscription was added later by some other family member who remained in Scotland.

Whether it was the tragedy of losing their little daughter or the fact that John's brother similarly moved to New Zealand, John and Jane decided to emigrate to New Zealand. They came on the Jessie Osborne, a vessel of 1056 tons under Captain Falconer from Glasgow on 6 November 1875. The ship's manifest records John and Jane's passage which brought them to Lyttleton on 30 January 1876. It appears that John followed his brother, David Lauder, to Oamaru where David had separately emigrated on the Nelson, which arrived at Port Chalmers on 26 December 1875. David was a single man when he came to New Zealand, however, he married some two years later.

It appears that both John and David worked in the Oamaru flour milling business owned by Ireland and Company.The mill was adjacent to the Severn Street Bridge that is now State Highway No 1. The mill building was pulled down some years ago. The site has a Mitre Ten store on it today.

As noted earlier in this narrative, this was where the Lauder family as we now know it, established its roots with the arrival of four children to John and Jane.

"John Lauder and his brother David did not always agree and John, hearing of a better job further north, left Oamaru to see about it. Unfortunately there was a train accident where an unknown man lost his life and it was often thought that John Lauder was that man. He was never heard of again."

There is no death certificate for John. Merv Lauder, a great grandson of John has carried out an extensive search of various records to establish the circumstances of John's death, however, to date there is no better record than that provided by John's granddaughter, Margaret McNaughton.

"John Lauder and his brother David did not always agree and John, hearing of a better job further north, left Oamaru to see about it. Unfortunately there was a train accident where an unknown man lost his life and it was often thought that John Lauder was that man. He was never heard of again."

There is no death certificate for John. Merv Lauder, a great grandson of John has carried out an extensive search of various records to establish the circumstances of John's death, however, to date there is no better record than that provided by John's granddaughter, Margaret McNaughton.

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Perthshire / Re: Lauder's, Perthshire.
« on: Friday 20 November 09 05:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,  I have David married oat Crieff at Perthshire but no date.  I have a photo of David and Maggie.  I have his parents as John Lauder bn Scotland and married on 24 Nov 1776 at Crieff to Janet Burden bn 27 Mar 1756  I have her father as Alexander Burden and her siblings bn John Burden bn 22 Jun 1756 and Anna Burden bn 22 Jun 1754.

I have David Lauder bn 27/12/1789 at Crieff and siblings John Lauder bn 1/9/1779, Willliam bn 29 Oct 1780, Elizabeth bn 11 May 1783 and James bn 12 Oct 1877.  I have nothing on anyone except for David.
I have David and Margaret with the following children.
William bn 26/9/1818 died Perth 18th Aug 1891,
James bn 19/1/1829  Died 12/1/1863, John bn 17/11/1816 died 1860, , Elizabeth bn unknown, Robertbn 1826, Alexander Lather bn 19 Jun 1831, Stewart Archer Lauder bn 9/10/1835 died 1923 Portage Manitobaq Canada and Helen Lauder bn 8 Jun 1833.

William married Janet McKay on 27/1/1850 at Blackford and had David Lauder bn 2/12/1850, John McKay Lauder bn 18/12/1852 (his relations went to New Zealand) Duncan Alxander Lauder (My rellies) bn 22/11/1955 Margaret Lauder bn 1/8/1858 Janet LaUDER.Jessie McLaren Lauder married david Winchester  ,

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Perthshire / Re: Burials in Kilmadock parish.
« on: Thursday 19 November 09 12:39 GMT (UK)  »
Gordon is a relative of mine.  I also live in Brisbane/   Where are you Val?

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Perthshire / Re: Lauder's, Perthshire.
« on: Thursday 19 November 09 10:22 GMT (UK)  »
Kenny,
I too am related to John Lauder and Janet Burden.  I live in Brisbane Australia.

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Perthshire / Re: Lauder's, Perthshire.
« on: Thursday 19 November 09 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
I am searching for Lauder from Perth.   Margaret Anderson born 10 March 1793 at Coupar Angus who married David Lauder 27 Dec 1789 at crieff.  Had children who were born at Auchterarder, Perth or Blackford Perth.  Children are William, James, john, Elizabeth, Robert, Alexander,Stewart Archer and Helen.  I am living in Brisbane Australia.  I have quite a lot of information on several of the children.
I have just had my Lauder's DNA taken and will be published any day on dna.ancestry.com

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