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World War Two / Re: 1940 Casualty Card
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Andy J2022 on Saturday 08 November 25 17:55 GMT (UK)
I can think of two possibilities.

1. His father had a heart condition or hypertension and so the son wished that any bad news be given first to his mother so that she could break the news in a less stressful manner to his father.

2. His father was away from home a lot on war work or worked awkward shifts meaning that the mother was easier to contact in an emergency.

Hi

Thank you for the suggestions.

My grandad didn't have any health issues at that time and worked in the local factory.

I wondered if it had anything to do with army pensions. Just a guess.

So just Googled my query which I reworded from my previous search:

In the event of an Army casualty, a single soldier's mother would be the primary person notified, provided she is registered as the official Next of Kin (NOK) in the soldier's service.
 


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World War Two / 1940 Casualty Card
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
Good evening

I have just gained access to my uncle's ww2 casualty card and the name and address of his nok was amended from his father, my grandad, to his mother, my grandma.

They moved house so I can understand the change of address but any idea why the name of the nok changed? My grandparents were together at the time, to my knowledge.

Thanks.

Kind regards
Amanda

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Caithness / Re: Look-up request Attestation Record
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 17:27 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Thursday 23 October 25 16:21 BST (UK)
Quote from: Pendlewitch67 on Thursday 23 October 25 16:14 BST (UK)

No idea who William's mother is.

The only thing I have to go on is a prison record stating born Edinburgh, 1830. Ages on the census returns vary from 1830 - 1833 and when he died his son registered his age as 52 in 1888.

William McKay
Marriage 11 Sep 1853 St. Austin's Lancashire
Father   Alexander McKay
Mother   Mary
Spouse   Catharine Daly
Father Hugh Daly
Mother Catherine
edit to add image on Anc*y
Lancashire, England, Catholic Registers of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1762-1913

Could this be William with his mother Mary & siblings on 1841 census

Barracks Habergham Eaves Nr Burnley
Mary McKay 40
John 15
Alexander 15
WILLIAM 10
Eliza 10
? 5
Joseph 5
All noted born ’S’ Scotland
Piece   508 Folio   46 Page number   13

Possible death of Mary

Mary McKay age 71
Death 31 Oct 1873 Ardwick, Manchester,
Reinterment Cemetery Ardwick Cemetery

Hi.

Thank you. No, I ruled out William at the barracks at the start of my research. He is the son of John and Mary Payne. That William was born in Ceylon.

I have William and Catherine's marriage certificate but there is no mention of William's mother so her name on the Catholic register is a breakthrough 😁

William and Catherine's first daughter was Mary so I suspected she may have been named after William's mother.

The burial of Mary McKay in Ardwick is definitely my next line of enquiry.

Thank you so much.

Kind regards
Amanda

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Caithness / Re: Look-up request Attestation Record
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 16:14 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Thursday 23 October 25 16:02 BST (UK)
Quote from: Pendlewitch67 on Thursday 23 October 25 15:21 BST (UK)

What I do know for sure is William's father, Alexander, labourer, was deceased by 1853 when William married in Manchester.


Can I ask if this your William & Catherine on 1861 census

Piece   2967
Folio   41
Page number   25

William McKay   29   Head born Scotland
Catherine  31 Wife born Liverpool
Mary 6 Daughter
Catherine 5 Daughter
William 3 Son
Maria 1 Daughter

Was his wife Catherine's mn Daly

Hi

Thank you.

Yes, this is my William and Catherine. I am struggling to find him prior to 1851. I suspect he may have been in Manchester in 1851 (only speculation though as I have only found a census record for William M in Chorlton).

No idea who William's mother is. The only thing I have to go on is a prison record stating born Edinburgh, 1830. Ages on the census returns vary from 1830 - 1833 and when he died his son registered his age as 52 in 1888.

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Caithness / Re: Look-up request Attestation Record
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 15:21 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Thursday 23 October 25 14:59 BST (UK)
For info.

Alex'r McKay
Military Rank   Sergeant
Military Pension Age   39
Birth Place Reey Caithness
Military Regiment   79th Foot
Military Pension Date   21 Dec 1844
Residence Place   Thurso
UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Admission Books, Registers and Papers, 1702-1980
no other info.

I'm wondering if he might be this Alexander McKay  :-\

MCKAY   Alexr   Head   W   47   Pensioner   Caithness   Reay      
Henry   Son   11   England         
Georgina   Dau 8   Aberdeen      
D S   Son         5   Caithness   Thurso      
SWANSON   Isabella   Sislaw U 40 House Servant   Caithness   Thurso
1851 Campbell St

MACKAY   Alexr   Head   W   66   Pensioner   Caithness   Reay      
MACKAY   Dond S   Son   26   Blacksmith   Caithness   Thurso      
SWANSON   Isabella   Servnt 56   Housekeeper   Caithness   Sordale Thurso   
1871 Barrock St


Alexander MacKay Age   77
Relationship   Father-in-law
Where born   Reay, Caith
County   Caithness
1881c Address   Sinclair St
Occupation Pensioner

Hi

Thank you.

What I do know for sure is William's father, Alexander, labourer, was deceased by 1853 when William married in Manchester.

I latched onto Alexander trying to figure out why William moved from Manchester c1872 to Burnley. A very dodgy connection but worth looking at, I thought. However, this information could very well prove he is not my Alexander which is all part of the fun of genealogy. I believe I have come across Alexander and son, Henry, who it now seems more than likely is the Henry in Paisley barracks in 1841.

It's always useful to rule somebody out than not know for sure.

Thanks again 😁

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Caithness / Re: Look-up request Attestation Record
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 14:45 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Thursday 23 October 25 14:04 BST (UK)
Anc*y has this record UK, Royal Hospital, Chelsea: Regimental Registers of Pensioners, 1713-1882

Alexander McKay
Birth Place   Reay, Caithness occ Labourer
Rank   Sergeant
Regiment   79th Foot
Regimental Number   327
Age at enlistment   18
Attestation Date   28 Jun 1823
Attestation Place Thurso, Caithness
Document Type   Soldier's Service Documents

some info. from

Detailed Statement of Services of No 327 Sergeant Alex ‘r McKay

Private 1st Jan 1829 to 31st Dec 1832
Promoted
Corporal  1st Jan 1833 to 24th March 1835
Sergeant 25th Mary 1835 to 7th Oct 1849 edit should read 1844

edit to add

From Detailed Statement of Services of No 327 Sergeant Alex ‘r McKay

5ft 10, dark hair, eyes black, complexion dark, trade a labourer

and

Opinion of medical officer at Dublin? November 21st 1844

Sgt. Alexander McKay having this day been examined by medical board, at Dublin? of which I was President, has been found unfit for further service from, ??? in both legs, also rheum...? & general debility

Added on the first page it says he served abroad six years
in Canada six years


Wow 😁

Thank you so much. Much more information than I was expecting. I wasn't expecting any service abroad as I thought that Alexander served in the reserves moving up and down the country.

The key I was looking for was his occupation, of all things.

I am trying to determine if he was the Private Alexander McCay who was stationed at Burnley barracks in 1829 with his wife Catherine. They had a daughter, Isabella,  who was bap. 1829.  In 1841 Sergeant Mckay is in Paisley barracks with other McKays, one of whom is 35 year old Catherine and a William McKay aged 5. As the families aren't grouped I can assume/hope it's the same Alexander and Catherine but more importantly, William. The issue though is with William's age, 5 years younger that the William I was hoping for. However, my William's dob is yet to be verified as I have variations on his actual birth ranging from c1830 to 1836.

This is a lot of information for me to hopefully determine whether or not Alexander could be my ancestor.

Thank you 😁

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Caithness / Look-up request Attestation Record
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 13:45 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon

I was hoping for assistance with a look -up of the 1823 attestation/service record of Alexander Mc Kay born 1805 Reay, Caithness, discharged 1844.

I am trying to determine whether or not he is my 3 x gt grandfather. I'm finding my Scottish ancestry tricky and seem to be having more luck finding out who my ancestors are not rather than who they are. Hopefully, this document may give me a much needed clue though I'm not getting my hopes up.

Thank you.

Kind regards
Amanda

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Lancashire / Re: 1881 Missing William McKay
« on: Monday 13 October 25 22:02 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: jonwarrn on Monday 13 October 25 21:59 BST (UK)
Burial of William McKay in Burnley, 7 March 1888
Age 52, Whip String Maker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-KY62

Thank you 😁

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Lancashire / Re: 1881 Missing William McKay
« on: Monday 13 October 25 12:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Raybistre on Monday 13 October 25 08:47 BST (UK)
This one is a probable: Name   William Mc Kay
Sex   Male
Age   48
Birth Year (Estimated)   1833
Birthplace   Scotland
Marital Status   Single
Occupation   Clock Stringmaker
Relationship to Head of Household   Boarder
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1881
Event Place   Openshaw, Lancashire, England
Event Place (Original)   Openshaw, Lancashire, England
Line Number   1
Page Number   16
Piece/Folio   3907/84
Registration Number   RG11

Says he is Single but he might have considered himself so
Ray

I am now fairly certain this could be my William.

He was the witness to the 1879 marriage of Hartley Sargison in Collyhurst with whom he was boarding with in 1881 in Openshaw. I am yet to compare signatures of William but in 1880 Hartley was in Burnley to witness his twin sister's wedding. Bit too much of a coincidence. I will delve further into this connection.

Update:

This is definately my William. I can only speculate on his relationship to Hartley and his movements between Burnley and Collyhurst/Openshaw. Perhaps after the death of his wife and his children marrying off he went away to work. Perhaps he was only visiting Collyhurst for the wedding of Hartley whom he may have met in Burnley and decided to move there for work. I may never know.

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