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Suffolk / Re: BAILEY Family - Ipswich
« on: Sunday 05 June 11 23:22 BST (UK)  »
I have an entry for John Robert Bailey marrying Sarah Jane Ribbans 4Q 1871 at Ipswich. This fits very well with the baker you are researching. Sarah Jane was baptised Sep 17 1852 at St Matthews Ipswich. She would seem to be the daughter of Charles Ribbans, b. c 1821 at Gt Blakenham, listed successively as a shopkeeper, milkman and publican in Ipswich in various directories; he died in 1882. His wife was Sarah Rozier, b. c 1819 [62 in 1881 census], married c 1842 at Needham Mkt, and buried in Ipswich cemetery Jan 11 1899. Certainly among their children is an Edwin Charles Ribbans, born 1844 at Needham Mkt, a well-known ironmonger and tinsmith in Ipswich; private residence 36 Fore St.  Edwin was married to another Bailey, Frances Rhodes Bailey, Sep 1864 at Ipswich. They had a number of children, one of whom is named Edwin Bailey Ribbans, born 1Q 1876 at Needham Mkt. 

I hope this may be of interest to some of you. Keep up the correspondence if you find it useful.

Best wishes,
Geoffrey/grib

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of John RIBBANS/REVANS in Mickfield
« on: Monday 04 April 11 01:36 BST (UK)  »
Dear Walter,

I greatly appreciate your contributions to Revans/Ribbans genealogical history, but I draw a blank on the issues you raise, two absolutely and one partially.

Please enlighten me about the possible connection with Elizabeth I and the Duke of Anjou, which on the face of it seems far-fetched. The only Duke of Anjou I know anything about is the grandson of Louis XIV who became Philip V of Spain in the early 18th Century (my academic speciality is Spanish culture); this is over a century after Elizabeth. If you give me what evidence you have, I'll try and give an opinion on it.

On Constable I know only that he was based on Sudbury, which was not very conspicuous among the Revans/Ribbans clan. Again I'd like to know more.

On William, married to Mary Noller Sep 25 1722 Woodbridge, I have him annotated, very tentatively, as possibly the son of John, b. 1671, and Mary Woods., m.1691.  Even more uncertainly, as the possible second husband of Mary Humphreys; since a widower called Wlliam Revans married her on Sep 1739.
All this is very problematical, with so many Johns, Roberts and Williams around.

in particular, I should like to know more about the two Johns: 1) 1671-1709, m. to Mary Woods, and 2) his son, 1692-1741, m. to Jane Parker. He is supposed to have left a will mentioning his brothers Samuel, Thomas and Robert (but not William).

Sorry to complicate life still more. Where is your rainy home? Mine, in Providence, Rhode Island, is just recovering from a cold and snowy winter.

Geoffrey

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of John RIBBANS/REVANS in Mickfield
« on: Wednesday 30 March 11 17:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much, Walter, for this very pertinent information. I share Alan's keen interest in John's will. I tried to get it on the internet with the details you gave, but didn't manage to obtain it--my incompetence I expect.

What is your source of the two bastardy cases? I found the second in the Suffolk Archives and may have missed the first, but I didn't find the child's sex or name recorded. I am also interested in William Darnforth/Margaret Revans' two daughters. I found both parents listed as tenants of the manor in Loder and Green's histories, and William also paid hearth tax at Felixstowe in 1674. Have you discovered anything new about Humphrey?

Another Ribbons who interests me is given in John Ridgard's recent compilation Great Framlingham in Suffolk and the Howard Dukes of Norfolk, Blaxhall Press, 2009, p. 124: John Ribbons is listed as the innkeeper of the White Lion at Framlingham in 1712; the source is the Framlingham Tithe Book of 1716.

Keep up the good work, both of you!

Geoffrey

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Suffolk Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Suffolk Poll Books 1700, 1790
« on: Monday 28 March 11 18:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Ric. Even negative information is useful.

Geoffrey

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Suffolk Completed Lookup Requests / Suffolk Poll Books 1700, 1790
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 17:32 GMT (UK)  »
A request for the name REVANS/RIBBANS in Framlingham The family flourished as yeomen in the 16th Century, but declined by the 17th. There may be some remnants still at the beginning of the century. Debenham is also a more remote possiblity.

Many thanks!
grib

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of John RIBBANS/REVANS in Mickfield
« on: Thursday 24 March 11 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Alan!

Intriguing possibilities, aren't there? What a proliferation of Roberts! I count five on my family tree and I think they are also on yours. It seems probable that the three Roberts you have helpfully found on the Suffolk burial records are the three generations: Robert, b. 1611 (who I have down for the 1667 date), Robert, b. 1639, and his son who you mention. You give his baptismal date as 17-7-1679; I have his birth date as July 17 1677, which makes him an even more likely suspect, though the term "yeoman" is perhaps more applicable to an older man. Or perhaps he died young in 1680. Or yet another Robert lurking in the background. Sarah Cosen(s) might be worth following up; it's a pity we don't know the name of her child.

Best, Geoffrey

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of John RIBBANS/REVANS in Mickfield
« on: Wednesday 23 March 11 18:27 GMT (UK)  »
Alan--Thanks for the useful confirmation.

A snippet of information I came across the other day in the Suffolk Archives that may interest you and Walter (LostRevans). It concerns a Robert Revans, who I suspect is the Robert (1639-1709) married to Hannah and father of John married to Mary Woods. Called a yeoman, he was served a bastardy order as the father of the child of Sarah Cosen on 20 April 1697, and renewed 5 October 1697; it is interesting that 1697 is the probable date of his wife's Hannah's death. Some years later (4 April 1722), the unfortunate Sarah Cosens is subject to a removal order from Framlingham to Saxtead.

Geoffrey

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Suffolk Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Cretingham Parish Registers: REVANS
« on: Sunday 13 March 11 18:00 GMT (UK)  »
Anne--Thank you so much for this list. It accounts for all the siblings I know of, except the first three, all born at Saxtead: Sarah, b. c 1657, Mary (1658-59), William, b/chr. Feb 26 1657. The parents William and Sarah were probably married there.

Geoffrey

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of John Ribbans/Revans in Mickfield
« on: Friday 11 March 11 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
SuffolkSue. Thanks so much You are an admirable reource.

Geoffrey

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