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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Wednesday 04 March 09 04:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello June,
Thanks for getting in touch.Some years ago I received a list of Sophia's descendants from Gwlad of Geelong.I counted about 250 and I think I have located you on it. I have also read about your family in a local history of Romsey, Vic.Good to hear from you!
sincerely Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Friday 27 February 09 04:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kermie 62,
That is interesting. What was the surname of Mary Ann Strutt's brother?The short pedigree from the diary mentions the Chivers family as a continuation of that line.
Regards Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Friday 27 February 09 04:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Fezworth
John Williams Bird was a grandson of John Bird the diarist and was lost at sea in 1848. He had a sister Hannah born in 1812, most likely in Cardiff. No other sister is mentioned.John Goodwin Bird's first marriage was in Guernsey to Ellen Groves but since he was born in 1798 he was most likely too young to be the father of Mary Ann. He did have a son from this marriage, also lost at sea.
there are many other Birds about whom I have no information including a Thomas Bird an attorney in 1796 and an Isaak Bird, also another John Bird, a painter born in Cardiff and died in Whitby.That is to say I don't know where they fit into the family.
Sincerely Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Thursday 27 November 08 07:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,
I have only just now read the last two posts. I have not been asleep, but discovered another of my cousins, and she has alerted me to the fact that Matilda Thomas born in Nantgarw Wales did not die by 1870 as I stated in my reply no. 46. Matilda married William St.Leger Dowden in 1875. They lived at Rochford Victoria, and had three children Albert Arthur b. 1876, Matilda Maria Lucy b. 1878, and Sophia Alice Elizabeth Matilda Dowden b. 1879. Matilda [Thomas] Dowden, also known as Sarah Matilda died in 1882 at Lancefield, leaving the three young children motherless.William Dowden died in 1915. Now we are searching for the Dowden descendants.There are two portraits of Matilda, one taken at Ballarat, the other by a Melbourne photographer.
regards Ceronn

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Thursday 23 October 08 09:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello Bill and Nev,
The name was Hendewerk [no r ] Usually written Handwerker  or similar, c.f.English "Handworker".The 1881 census shows Robert 56 a merchant, born Danzig [ now Gdansk]and Margaret 51 [understated] living in Ealing, Middlesex, naturalised British citizens, and daughter Maud, 21. This daughter was born Emily Maud Mary Grierson in Cardiff 18.71859 and was adopted by her Aunt known as 'Madge' according to information from the New Zealand family. Maud married a Benjamin Pierce and died 1933.It seems that Margaret Stonehewer Bird and her husband had no children of their own.
sincerely
Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Wednesday 15 October 08 04:04 BST (UK)  »
Hello Bill,
I live in tropical North Queensland Australia. I thought you were Canadian, but now not sure.
Sarah b. 1827 died young, unmarried. Could not find Margaret but have not really tried. Elizabeth's husband John Grierson b. 16.1 1816 Bridgenorth U.K. had a carpet warehouse in Duke St. Cardiff.[Slaters Directory 1858-9]In 1864 they migrated to NZ.and settled near Christchurch. John, described as a lawyer, and active in Commercial circles died 26.1.1882. The Griersons are very big on family history and can be found at Ancestry.com. Gertrude Hannah Grierson Chr. 12.9.1855 St. Johns, was one of the first women to attend Christchurch University. She died in 1956 aged 101. A son, Owen Heathcote Grierson Merton, became a well known expatriate NZ painter, lived in Paris , died 18.1.1931 buried in London.A grandson Thomas Merton b. 1915 Paris died 1968 USA, a famous philosopher and Trappist Monk. Some of the Griersons established a large legal firm in NZ. Some later moved to Australia.
best regards
Ceronn

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Tuesday 14 October 08 04:05 BST (UK)  »
Bill1
Thank you Bill. We are really expanding on the "brief pedigree" of the bird family. They seem to have lived a good life span! I have a note about a Fortescue Jones described as 'Shoemaker, water bailiff and clerk to the markets in Cardiff, grandson of John Bird, painter and guilder.'
The IGI has a marriage listed in 1809 for Sarah Bird and William Jones, St. Johns Cardiff.Maybe the youngest child of John Bird 1733-1815 did not die young as suggested in an earlier post.I have had trouble tracking down where I found this note.
The Bird descendants of William Knowles Bird are fairly easy to track via history books and the net as they were in the diplomatic service in a very interesting historical period.eg. Sir Hugh Stonehewer Bird [Francis Hugh William] KCMG OBE. His obituary in the Times 1973.
best regards
Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Friday 12 September 08 05:34 BST (UK)  »
Bravo Bill !
A correction to post 42. Eliza born 1805 died May 1893 at Romsey, Vic. Australia, and there were 4 sons and 3 daughters, of whom a boy and a girl died in infancy. Five children came to Australia. William b.1839 had 3 daughters and 1 son. Alfred Nash b. 1845 had 3 sons and 2 daughters, of whom 1 son died in infancy. His wife was his first cousin Alice Bird b.1852. Arthur Augustus b. 1850 died unmarried in 1873. Matilda died before 1870, Sophia Eliza married Charles Beard in 1870 and had 12 children.
The Australian Dictionary of Biography [on line] has an entry for a grandson of William: Noel William Simpson b. Sydney Australia in 1907.
Thanks,  Ceronn.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Bird family Guernsey
« on: Tuesday 09 September 08 06:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bill,
That is really interesting. The surviving daughter was Jane, and I wonder who she married.A cousin James took over the Cowbridge business, and if you look up Bird's Vehicle Solutions on line and click on the section "about us"you will find a short family history and a portrait of John the diarist b.1761, entitled 'Uncle John'.Hoping to hear more...
regards Ceronn.

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