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Australia / Re: Hannah SPARKS bC1861 Somerset, England
« on: Tuesday 14 October 14 04:55 BST (UK)  »
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Short of ordering ALL of them,  I'd start with the ones nearest to Somerset first,  and work outwards from there.
Yeah, those are the "ALL" of them I meant (those in/near Somerset with SPARKS/SPARKE/SPARKES/SPARK and similar or any other variant along with Anna Hanna etc, and working outward; I crossed them off the list where I could). With variations, and time lines .. I just can't afford to order all of them. I have followed up where I could (check the next census they would be in as a married couple) with no luck. I guess I should make note that I have been researching this family for 22 years now. I'm not new to the game in general, just new to Australia. I have checked ships to Canada, and ships to the United States. I have checked census in both countries, as well as Ontario marriages (her brothers Sam and John settled here), and marriages Ontario County, New York where Hannah's sisters, and one brother settled. I have begun looking into Wales, but I'm not as familiar with their system. 

Notoriously mistake ridden there is actually a death registration for a Hannah SPARKES in Australia with a father John and a mother Mary, however I don't see any real connection.

Neil

Is there anything in particular that jumps out as a not likely? Thanks for your replies Neil.

I'd be looking at deaths and marriages in England before rushing about aimlessly all over the world,  no matter how tedious it may be.
One line of enquiry I could suggest,  is to try and figure out when this Neil O Coyle died.  If he died,  she'd be out of a job,  which might tend to be the catalyst for a big move.

I have already followed up Neil COYLE and his family. She isn't with them, or any of his children. She is not in the 1891/1901 census in England or Wales. I haven't aimlessly rushed all over the world. I have been researching this family for a very long time. The marriages I could find were followed up. They did not match Hannah. No deaths within a reasonable name fit her as far as age goes, but I have ordered one which gives her age as five years younger than she is I have not followed up stranger name variants like "SPRAGUE".


In the mid to late 19th Century Australia there were basically six separate British colonies..[snip]

Neil asked if you have checked for outbound passengers and or emigrants, but I don’t seem to have found your reply.   

May I mention that in the 19thC so many of these civil registry entries...[snip]

Over the years, I have noticed SPARKS recorded as SPARKES, SHARKS, and other variations.   Hannah, well, there’s so many variations there too ….. Annie, Ann, Anne,  and many others.
Here’s  the link ...

Cheers,  JM

SHARKS is one spelling I have not come across before. I will add it to my file. And thanks for your reply. I was surprised to find all these messages, and have yet to go through them. I am familiar with the other spellings, and the messes the registrar, and even the parent can cause (my 2nd great grandfather, Hannah's brother, appears to have been baptised before he was born - I'm going with John's error in reporting the birth since the minister knew the family quite well.) thanks for your reply. It is much appreciated.

There is a marriage in 1880 of a Hannah SPARKS in Somerset and she is right age. When she was employed with the O'Coyle Family she may have lied to get the job :o

My finder says Hannah married one of two men. Samuel WARREN or Charles HITCHCOCK. I can find no reference to a Hannah with either surname and right birth year in 1891 census.

Neil

Good point about lying. Her sister had a child out of wedlock, and left him with his grandfather and step grand mother when she became a "single/childless" indentured servant.
The WARREN and HITCHCOCK names sound familiar. I'll go over them again, though. Thanks.

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Australia / Hannah SPARKS bC1861 Somerset, England
« on: Monday 13 October 14 05:00 BST (UK)  »
I have birthed, married, and killed off everyone in this family except Hannah. She was born 3 Nov 1862 in Cleve/Cleave, Yatton, Somerset to John SPARKS and Mary Ann HANCOCK, and one of 9 children. In 1871 she is listed as 8 years old, and is living with her family in Congresbury, Somerset. In 1881 she is listed as age 18, born in Congresbury, and is a domestic servant living the the house of Neil O. COYLE in Weston-super-mare. By 1891 she is gone. Short of ordering all the Hannah SPARKS deaths, and marriages from 1881-1891, I have found nothing to help me. I can find no record of her coming to North America, and nothing showing me she lived here. Hanna's brother, Sam, came to Canada in 1874. When Sam died in 1930, his obit (which had some errors in it) stated he had two sisters, one half sister, and one brother surviving. These people have been accounted for in New York state USA. I began to wonder if Hannah might have gone to Australia. There was a rumour floating around that one sibling had gone there. I know little to nothing about Australian genealogy. It sure would be nice to find this woman.

Maer

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Canada / Re: WAGNER of Sault Ste Marie and Owen Sound
« on: Monday 13 October 14 04:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello Spacebat and Kazzaqld. And wecome to RootChat, Spacebat.

..you need to make 3 posts before you can access the Private Message (PM) system

PB

Thank you! Gad, I thought I was going crazy.

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I am registered, I am logged in, and I have looked through the "How To". This person has two of my connected names, and I'd really like to send them a message. Am I too early?


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