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The surname DNA project at familytreedna.com for these surnames (Sennett, Sinnott, Sinnett, and any similar spellings) has just got up to five more sponsored DNA tests available to be sent out to people living in the UK (you just pay return postage to US).   These are Y37 tests, but the project also has funds available to upgrade any DNA project members as far as BigY if your initial results indicate they may help fill in an untested area of the surname study genetic tree.  Please comment, or message me, or use the admin contact link on the surname project home page if you are interested, and I can give you more information.   Any male with one of this group of surnames who has already done an Ancestry DNA test is also welcome to use the link to upload their results to the project.   This page has more info, the admin contact link, and the project join link.  https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/sennett/about

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Y-DNA question
« on: Sunday 27 April 25 07:37 BST (UK)  »
I agree that Y-111 will be a good start, but this can be upgraded later to BigY700 usually without having to submit further sample.  If you do go to BigY, it would also be useful to get a second known relative test.   The reason being that a single test won't be likely to name and identify anything up to a dozen or so of the most recent SNP mutations (it will just list them as "private variants"), so you need to have a second tester who is likely to share all or most of those most recent mutations in order to get your full genetic "signature" onto the Y-haplotree.    That will then mean that in future when other people who match you within a genealogically useful timeframe (i.e. within a surname use timeframe) it will be a lot easier to calculate when your likely common ancestor lived.  Ideally your initial BigY testing strategy would include yourself, the closest known relative (son, father, brother), and the most distant known relative (to give you a known dating point several generations back for your common ancestor) and you would either all joint (or start) a surname project so these tests (and anyone else who joins with the same surname) could be analysed easier side by side.

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Sunday 27 April 25 07:24 BST (UK)  »
I haven't yet been able to link any of my Sutton Curtis's to any other Berks/Oxon families, but still interested in working on it.    Our lot did go to London - John Curtis, 1766-1823, only child of Thomas and Elizabeth nee GRAHAM) was I think the first to be born in London, and from there the next generation started to disperse a little more.

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Saturday 16 November 24 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks. Were any in the Berks/Oxon area?

Reginald Cortys, a freeman, living in 1274 (one of 12 sutton residents called upon as jurors to provide on oath the facts about the value of the manor of Sutton after John Courtenay died.   
I got this info from "Sutton Courtenay - The History of a Thames-Side Village" by John Fletcher (pub 1990, out of print).  The source quoted was P.R.O., C 133/6, no 1.   

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Saturday 16 November 24 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
"Excalibur" crest - just out of interest has anyone got any connection to a Curtis family who might use what in our family was called an "excalibur" crest?  (bent armoured arm, holding sword, coming out of water/lake) - This made its appearance in our family a good number of generations ago on a large set of silver cutlery, which has been split up over several generations to the point where any descendants now only have a couple of pieces.  Mum could never quite pin down who had it first.   I strongly suspect there was no direct entitlement to use this crest, but somewhere, someone in our family decided to start using it on the family silver.    I don't have a piece right here to look at, but it is somewhat similar to the one in this link https://www.myfamilysilver.com/pages/crestfinder-crest.aspx?id=142909&name=Curtis

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Saturday 16 November 24 16:20 GMT (UK)  »
Great to see a new discussion on CURTIS (and variant spellings) of Sutton Courtenay.  I come from a very long line of CURTIS's, my nephew being the most recent and 14th generation of the documented line going back John CURTIS b abt 1526 d 1586 and his wife Ann GLOVER (1525-1579)  John was the son of Margaret who died in 1552 (husband unknown), and had a brother in law William CURTIS (1506-1564) who was married to Alice 1590-1563.     I've just been reviewing the little book "Sutton Courtenay - The History of a Thames-side Village" (by John Fletcher, pub 1990, now out of print) and pulled out a reference to a man another 250 or so years earlier than my tree goes:  Reginald CORTYS, who was one of the 12 freemen jurors called upon in 1274 "to provide on oath the facts about the value of the manor of Sutton after John Courtenay died".   Thomas CURTIS (1736-1813, married to Elizabeth GRAHAM) of the Upend farm (his name appears on the 1804 enclosure map) was my 3ggrandfather.  I've just got my nephew to do a BigY DNA test at familytreedna, and will also be getting my brother to do the same, so that will give us the full genetic signature (genetic mutation history) for our line, and make it easier to see where other lines branch off at common ancestors.   It would be incredibly interesting if there were any other direct line male descendants of any Curtis family from Sutton Courtenay.   My mum researched this family in great detail for many years (from the 1970's), corresponding with a 3rd cousin of my father in the pre-internet days,  and I took over the research about 20 years ago.  I have to admit that neither she nor I found any other living male Curtis descendants from Sutton Courtenay who we couldn't confirm were connected to our line.  I'd like to be proved wrong and find a line that has a common ancestor even further back than we know off.   Please PM me if you want to share your tree and try to find a connection.   The basic tree outline from my mother's research has been uploaded to my surname study (Sennett/Sinnott ) website.  The Sennett side only connects through me and my mother, but you can still use the name search for Curtis names and follow family links.  https://sennett.one-name.net/ 

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Durham / Sennett
« on: Saturday 12 October 24 11:25 BST (UK)  »
Any County Durham Sennetts out there?   I'm most interested in those with known or possible Irish ancestry. 

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This is an update of information from the Sennett (Synnott, Sinnett, Sinnott) surname study files of what is known about the family of Michael Synnott, a stonecutter, and his two wives, Ellen Loughnan and Ellen Coleman.  Note that while his father is known to be Nicholas, a stone cutter (as noted on his marriage to Ellen Loughnan), no record of his birth has yet been able to be confirmed.

Michael Synnott, stonecutter first married Ellen LOUGHNAN on 7 june 1896, and they had one child, a male, unnamed, born and died on 4 feb 1897 at Clonafin (Parsonstown reg district).  Mother Ellen died shortly after on 11 mar 1897 (aged 24, stonecutters wife) with the cause of death noted as "delicacy from birth".  The informant for both deaths was Mary Loughnane (grandmother of the child, mother of Ellen) who was present at death.

In 1901 Michael is found on the census at house 4, Moyvannan (Kiltoom, Roscommon), aged 40, b Co Galway, a stonecutter, married.  He is not with his family.  Ellen SYNOTT is still in Cloniffeen (Shannonbridge, Kings Co) with her step-father Kieran HENRY, his wife Teresa HENRY, Ellen's children Mary and Eliza SYNOTT (aged 2 and 1) and Kieran HENRY's other stepchildren Stephen COLEMAN (17), and Eliza COLEMAN (15).
From this 1901 census record assumptions made are:   Ellen SYNOTT, wife of Michael was born COLEMAN, her mother is Teresa HENRY, formerly COLEMAN, and she is staying with her stepfather and mother because she has young children and her husband Michael has gone to Moyvannan for work.

There is a marriage of Teresa HALL to Thomas COLEMAN 19 feb 1868 at Ballinasloe, Creagh Co Galway.  Thomas COLEMAN dies 28 Dec 1886 at the Workhouse, with his usual place of residence given as Shannon Bridge.  He has had 9 children, including the three named in Census 1901 with the HENRY family (Ellen, Stephen and Eliza).  In the 1911 census, Kieran HENRY is stated to have been married 18 years with no children.  Teresa (who has had 8 children born, all of whom are still living) is named as his wife, though no marriage record has been found yet (and they may not have actually married).    Teresa's children are all found in civil birth records with surname COLEMAN, father Thomas COLEMAN, a shoemaker, and mother Teresa HALL.  Ellen COLEMAN was born 28 oct 1879 at Shannonbridge.

There is no record found yet of the second marriage of Michael SYNNOTT to Ellen COLEMAN (nee HALL), but there are civil registration records of 5 children born to Michael SYNNOTT (a stone cutter) and Ellen COLEMAN.  A sixth (John) is also named as a child of Ellen on Census1911 but no civil registration record of his birth has been found.

The death of Michael SYNNOTT was registered by Pat NULTY, the RIC officer who found the body.  He had been "accidentally drowned" on 5th September at Shannon Bridge, aged 55, a stonecutter, married.  The death certificate does not indicate how he came to be in the water.

Michael's widow Ellen SYNNOTT (aged 29, a widow) is at house 28, Shannonbridge Town at Census 1911, with children Lizzie (11), John (4) and Michael (3) and a lodger.  Ellen is stated as having been married 12 years, with 6 children born and 3 still living.  Note that she probably had 5 children still living at this point, though may have interpreted the census question as the number of children still living with her (which was 3).

Ellen SYNOTT died 23 jun 1929 at Shannon Bridge (cause of death, exhaustion, from Carcinoma of the uterus).  She was a widow, servant, aged 50, and her son Michael SYNOTT of the same  address was the informant.   

The birth marriage and death records are all found on the free irishgenealogy civil records website.   If anyone has further information about the descendants of Michael Synnott, please feel free to either message me here, or contact me through the surname study (registered with the Guild of One Name Studies) - use the surname search on the home page one-name.org to get to the contact page for the study.  Any male descendants of this line will be eligible to join the YDNA project, so please also contact me about this.   

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Sinnott Family - Nicholas Sinnott m Ellen Hickey
« on: Wednesday 01 November 23 11:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hallmark:  This is your family record in the surname study database:  https://sennett.one-name.net/getperson.php?personID=I36193&tree=Sennett  If that link doesn't work (links can change after updates) the easiest way to find the family is to use the search box for Andrew Carr then you can click on his wife (Margaret Sinnott) and see the rest of her family from there.  If you need any more information or want to add anything, just use the contact form on the website to message me.

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