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Durham / Quinn Monkwearmouth
« on: Saturday 10 September 11 12:18 BST (UK)  »
 :(Looking for a John Quinn and his wife Mary and a son John in Monkwearmouth Sunderland after the 1911 Census  can anyone  suggest  an address for electoral  rolls for Monkwearmouth and or Sunderland John the son was a engineer and  his father a Publican  Mothers maiden name  McArlin.......They were Roman Catholic so any RC churches  would be  a help ....and  naqmes of cemetaries  for that area.....John the father  was from a family that lived at 4 Noble Street  Elswick Newcastle upon Tyne and before that Felling on Tyne  County Durham ........They had come to Felling from Kilmore Armagh....

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Durham / Re: Broomshields Hall, near Satley
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 03:22 BST (UK)  »
My Hedleys  gave me  a right dance .....but it seems  now that they  come from Satley..... a place I am not familiar with I am from Tyneside and now live in Northumberland.......but Ada Hedley born 1882 had put me on the wrong road as she had said she was born at South Shields County Durham in later life....but everything pointed to Satley even the fact she had married her husband James Harmieson of Corbridge in Hexham she  also lived in the home of the Colliery Cashier at Orchard House Corbridge ......by chance I found  this site and some one talking about Keys to the Past...as...... I zoomed in and then slowly out I saw South Shields Farm.......

.I am so glad I stopped by and read your conversation........I am now doubly sure that .....I have the right Ada Hedley from the 1891 Census daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Hedley father a miner....

Great Site

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Armagh / Re: Quinn & Dalton Creenagh Armagh
« on: Monday 17 July 06 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank You .....Terry ......Lots of Cranney and Crannys in Consett County Durham .....Consett & Leadgate  ....When I was a girl it was always covered in red dust from iron smelting and steel works all gone now as are the many coal mines and the land returned to beauty......and agriculture .....Many Many Irish came to Durham mostly from Ulster bujt a few from other places ....so much so that the origoinal first railway line that ran from Port Patrick .....down the coast from stranraer became known as the Paddy Line.....We are well served in Durham & Northumberland where Creaney Cranney and Cranny are too  and our Archives at Blandford House ..Blandford Square Newcastle upon Tyne well worth a visit as just about all the church archives from Northumberland Tyne & Wear and North Durham that part that is North of Durham City.....Thank You Patsy Norman

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Armagh / Quinn & Dalton Creenagh Armagh
« on: Monday 17 July 06 04:52 BST (UK)  »
My ancestors used the name Quin & Quinn with the help of this forum which pointed me in the right direction for RC Church Kilmore  known as the Stonebridge RC Church Kilmore Township Richill Diocese Armagh we have the marriage of Margaret Quin to William Douglass 1853....also the Baptism records of Felix Quin 1846

Finally Thomas Quinn born 1829 whose last child was born in Felling Durham England whose wife Alice Kerr died there  the names of two older children.... his second wife and her three children  but try as we might we could not find his first marriage ....

Just as an after thought I put his  and her name in the search facility and couldnt believe my eyes when I saw there names 1845 the year the church  records began....

I don't know if any of the other Quin/Quinns of Kilmore Armagh could be part of the family as I have only the five offspring that settled in Tyneside  obviously there could be ones from this family that went to far different shores also to other parts of England/ Scotland /Wales as well as those who never left Ireland ....

Please don't lose heart  anyone researching....I took up Family History as a means of keeping my old gray matter moving when I ended up in as wheelchair ....It was hard when I first started  LOL we didnt have PC's and the Internet....

My husband would install me in the Family History Room of Newcastle upon Tyne and Gateshead and go off and do all he had to do....it got easier as the years went by..that was 15 years ago...

We started to go to Ireland and apart from Dublin Waterford Wexford and Wicklow .....have seen most other parts of Ireland many times...but Ulster in all its Beauty many many times ...

The People of Ulster what ever there religous persuasion have always always been kindness itself amd we have made many many friends ....

So if your ancestors come from Armagh as mine do go and get the feel of Ulster and see what a township looks like ....until you see one its not like anything you imagine ....its not the size of a Village or A Small town....And for American Canadian and Australian its more like those gathering of a few houses at a cross roads often shown in your deserts or prairies in movies ....

Kilmore St Aidens  the Ch of Ireland has a wonderful Cemetary where all denominations are buried .....not to far distant is the Orange Hall very modern clean and well kept.....a smattering of homes .....somehow we missed the Stonebridge and the Church so didnt see the RC Church ....I never saw a Public House or a Shop but if we missed the church maybe missed them ......we found the Creenagh Road  and thats the way we left in our final dash for Belfast Lough and the Ferry to Stranraer...but we will go and spend longer the next time it will always be there....

I suspect that my great great grandfather Patrick Quin is probably buried in St Aidens Churchyard but as just a jobbing labourer he probably didnt have a headstone ....

I would liked to know where the copy of records for St Aidens C of I Church are kept if anyone can help....

Hoping to hear from any Quin/Quinns as usual



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Armagh / Re: LINK: Baptism & Marriage index
« on: Monday 03 July 06 16:49 BST (UK)  »
 :D :D :D :DThank You very much for your link to births and marriages we have one definite and two possibles from It back one more branch Patsy Norman nee Quinn

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 look up please for Quinn
« on: Sunday 14 May 06 10:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello Wallie .....There was a place called Wall Knoll Presbyterrean Church Newcastle upon Tyne .....If you could find what part of Newcastle the presbyterrean Church was in  ...Then you are likely to find where abouts they were if they were labourers in the Ship Yard I reckon that that would be Vickers Armstrong Ship Yard and certainly there are many knoll's in that area as the land rises up from the river level to the present day west road out of newcastle.....it may be on an old map of Newcastle it could have been swallowed up by the many industrilised housing estates and just be remembered in the name of the Prebyterrean Church thats where I saw it will try different searches if I find any thing else will let you know Felix Quinn is very much a family name in my family we are catholic got one in every generation....Felix brother to my Great Grandfather Patrick  1846 settled in Jarrow.....Felix about 1869 my grandfather's brother settled in Sunderland.....My Uncle Felix Quinn was born Felling near Gateshead  about 1894 lived in North Shields and worked at Walkergate Naval Yard on the way to Newcastle........I suppose all these Felix's could be getting named after a Felix that went to the colonies....mine are all descendents of Patrick Quinn born 1801 and Agnes Dalton born 1808 in Armagh....we assume there children were born or registerred in Creenagh Kilmore Armagh.....Ag labs...Thomas Patrick Margaret Mary Ann and Felix all settled on Tyneside...bothsides of the river...name started as Quin and in my grandfathers generation suddenly became Quinn.....they were catholic and to get work in Ireland especially Ulster it was better to be one N and also it wasnt unknown that they walked long distances to the RC church but payed lip service to the Church of Ireland obviousley the next generation born in England felt safe to add the extra N...Hope this may help you in some way I will look at some old maps I have off old newcastle...and books....and let you know about Wall Knoll.......quindalton

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Donegal / Re: QUINN - new information-anyone connect?
« on: Tuesday 04 April 06 04:23 BST (UK)  »
 :D ??? ;D

Sorry I can't add to your Donegal Quin/Quinn's but just to give you moral support after I stopped laughing and crying with laughing

I realised I must sound like you at times...I am Mary Patricia Quinn born St Patricks Day XXX in Northumberland England ....I grew up thinking I was unique....

I came to Genealogy late in life when everyone who could have told me anything in life was already gone and have got what I have got by tenacity.....like a dog with a bone.....

My father said "the family" came from Clare ..... well that proved wrong .....but not quite.... in the 1891 Census of Newcastle my Great Grandfather Patrick Quinn gave his birthplace as Armagh....four other siblings who all came to England give creenagh kilmore armagh as birth or registration place...in RC Church Records in Felling Durham and Newcastle Northumberland......so we all know the descendents are those five are related....

My Great  Great grandfather was Patrick Quinn he never left Ireland and Clare well I guess they moved from Creenagh as not far away is a Clare Township, a Clare River, and a Clare Glen ....all in  Armagh...near to Tandragee...I think they had moved over the border from Tyrone in the case of the Quinns and from West Meath in the case of the Daltons....

They all had large families and until I was born most of the men had PATRICK JOHN JAMES JOSEPH FRANCIS FELIX  AND THE WOMEN Mary Ann Catherine Rose Margaret Maureen and Moira .......

 I found that not only was I not unique I had two of the most commonest names known Mary and Patricia.....suddenly from me onwards Pat Quinn's abounded in the female line....

All the old names have a modern variation on the same theme ....

JOHN'S HAVE BECOME ...SEAN'S OR IAN'S....CATHERINES ...BECOME KAREN OR KATHRYN...JAMES HAS BECOME JAMIE AND ARE BOTH MALE AND FEMALE ELIZABETH HAS BECOME EILAS. FRANCIS IS BOTH SEXES. FELIX HAS DROPPED OUT OF FASHION BUT TENDS TO BE A NAME THEY GIVE THE CAT OR DOG NOW ....WAS IT A HERD INSTINCT AS MY FAMILY NAMED THERE CHILDREN WHAT THEY CHOSE AND GOT A SHOCK WHEN THEY DISCOVERED IT HAS HAPPENED ......

One grand-daughter was given three names Kathryn Elizabeth Constance  and every single name had been used before....and the name of Patrick and Patricia as a second name is legion.....

Mary Anne's are now Anne-Maries.....

Perhaps if we DNA tested all Quin/Quinns in the world ....it would turn out that we are all descended from the first man and his name was Adam Quinn.....yes we have an Adam too .....Adam Laurence Patrick...its so uncanny....

Happy Hunting and Thank You for a good laugh on a dismal winters day.......my email is (*)....if any one wants to get in touch ......at the first sign of any connection to Donegal .....I will be in touch....I love Donegal its my favourite County....

My cousin Laurence Patrick Quinn went down off Bloody Foreland and Tory Island in a Sunderland Flying Boat....Sept 1944 ....5 RAF Crew and 5 RCAF  Crew..... Flying off Lough Erne from Castle Archdale....strange to say from there names they all had Ancestors from Ulster ...A big debt of gratitude is owed to Eamon De Valera and Winston Churchill who made a secret pact to allow those boys to fly along what came to be known as the Donegal Corridor a wonderful book by Joe O Loughin an author from Fermanagh ....about the Donegal Corridor is a good read....
I was given a copy for Christmas......

Patsy Norman nee Quinn

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Armagh / Quinn & Dalton Creenagh Armagh
« on: Saturday 29 October 05 01:52 BST (UK)  »
Patrick and Agnes Quin/Quinn nee Dalton between the years 1828 and 1870 lived in Creenagh Township near the Bridge just down from Kilmore in the County Armagh....I know that five of there children came to Felling County Durham between the years 1841 and 1861....Those five children were Thomas born 1829,Patrick born 1831,Margaret born 1833, Mary Ann born 1836 and Felix born 1846 all came to Felling and apart from Margaret....married in St Patricks RC Church giving there place of birth and parents to the priest at the time of there marriage...Margaret married William Douglas in Armagh about 1854.... she had her sister Mary Ann with her when she came....Felix came later...an older relative Mary Quinn nee Dalton already lived in Felling on Tyne in 1841...a widow of Thomas Quinn....who is reputed to be brother of Patrick who never left Armagh....although Agnes his wife did in 1885 she came to Elswick Newcastle upon Tyne dying there April 4th 1886.....had the last of her children finally left Armagh to go ???????? abroad....or had they died or did she just fewel the need to be with her first born son...she was 78 years old when she died....Although five different branches have come together on Tyneside  because of the archives at Blandford House Blandford Square Newcastle upon Tyne....which has the archives of most of the Roman Catholic Churches on Tyneside....which has enabled five of us descendents ....to come together because there is a rich history of marriages and the connection to Patrick & Agnes....and the cousins being God Parents at baptisms which sometimes ended in deaths of children lost in epidemics and the sorrow all must have felt...I just know that there are other brothers and sisters of this family out there somewhere...for Agnes would have just been 38 when Felix was born...and Felix would have been 24 when his father died....did Agnes move in with a son or daughter that live in another area perhaps Loughal  Tandragee...Mullavilly or Richill...or perhaps a Dalton relative....Catholics and Church of Ireland lie together in the C Of I churchyard in Kilmore....is this where Patrickis buried....Well come on all the lost brothers and sisters of the five on tyneside wether in the New World  or UK or Ulster or elsewhere inIreland...if the names sound familiar from half remember stories ....

The names that repeat in every generation are.....Thomas ...Patrick..Margaret ...Mary Ann...Felix... Agnes....John...Francis ..Joseph...James....Annie... Rose...Eilis(Elizabeth) Laurence....Peter....Catherine...and Liam....a few additions but still very ordinary names.....I am a great grandmother now myself....and the Catherine may be spelt a different way such as Kathrine and Kathryn and even the danish Karen and Elizabeth and Laurence and Patrick and Mary .........about the only name not still getting used is Felix....an Uncle ...of mine being the last of that name .... popular incomers were Leo.... Bernard... Michael....Sheila and Kathleen and Megan (welsh for Margaret) hope that some one out there has a few Quinns up there family tree.....one lost branch is the Johnsons of Gillingham Kent with a Rose Quinn grandmother or great grandmother she is my cousin...and a Thomas Quinn a John Quinn and a Felix Quinn who we lose track of in Jarrow but think they may have ended up in Sunderland Durham..... Felix born 1846 married Mary Cain and had ten Children in Jarrow in the area of Salem and Dee Street....ther are many side branches  and the tree is a spreading chesnut tree and very healthy....Do get in  touch and even if we are not relatewd I bet I have come across your ancestors on my searches over the last 15 years....Looking forward to hearing from you all........Patsy N ....nee Quinn

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