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Denbighshire / Re: Wright Family Ruabon
« on: Friday 05 September 25 08:08 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if the people in this thread are still active. 

I am researching a particular WRIGHT family from Ruabon for a couple of reasons the most important being that they are my wifes direct ancestry.

She is related through a Robert Jessie Wright who died in 1932 leaving a trust to his adopted (unofficial) son and then to his granddaughter.  This trust failed upon her death and opened up a great can of worms (my second reason for this search).  Robert at his death is listed as a coal factor of Ruabon.  His will reads that he was of Bryn Ruabon.  I have assumed (probably incorrectly) that Bryn is a house name rather than a village. 

Robert died 29th Dec 1932.

Robert Was the eldest of 9 children.  His parents were Edward Wright and Amelia nee JONES.   I believe her father was William.

Roberts siblings were, Isaac, Lemuel, Elizabeth, Edward, John, Mary Winifred (the wifes line) Sarah Jane and William Henry.

From the Will I am aware that Isaac and Lemuel predeceased Robert.  Lemuel is listed as deceased on his daughters Wedding cert in 1913 however I cannot find a death that fits this nor can the only other researcher I have found following this line.  I believe Lemuel married Elizabeth Willett however this is confused in so much as their daughter Ediths baptism is listed as Elizabeth as mum yet the 1911 census as Lemuel married to a Sarah.  Of course this could be one in the same person.

Hopefully this will trigger some information from others who may be searching this name.  Of course Wright and Jones are very very common names.

Also if anyone as any links to online directories for the turn of the century to 1914 for Ruabon then I would appreciate those as well

Rob


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with the text please
« on: Monday 12 May 25 16:50 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks and as soon as you said communal internment I knew what you meant.   Looking back at the register/ledger that makes total sense as two others are interred in the same plot, a 9 yr old girl and a 65yr old male.  The three of them dying within 3 days.  Interesting there are no depths recorded for the communal graves yet there are for the paid graves.  In one for interest nothing more it says now 10 feet as if they have had to dig through an earlier internment

Rob

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with the text please
« on: Monday 12 May 25 16:23 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can tell me what the writing on this page says.  I dont need the first box as I can read that its more the part that to me looks like Corn int

Also if anyone knows what it means.  Its in a burial ledger if that helps

Rob

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Travelling People / Re: Moffett/Moffatt
« on: Tuesday 22 April 25 16:17 BST (UK)  »
Moffatt is in my tree also but mine are in Scotland and my gg grandfather bigamously marrying my gg grandmother in Leeds.  I cant say I have ever connected the name to the travelling community though

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: turners court
« on: Wednesday 09 April 25 17:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi All

I have just come across this thread in relation to some research I am doing and wanted to add to the info provided by others based on my research>

Wallingford opened in 1912 (others have said 1911 )  for boys and men who were not of full mind.  Usually it was for epileptic men and was based on the idea of a German Socialist group and I would say something similar to the bruderhoff of today.  As others have said it was the intention of teaching this young boys and men (some to the age of 50) skills that they could use in the "new world".  Ie our new colonies.  My research of one person as shown that they were not always sent out to the new world.  Unfortunately due to closure rules I am as yet unable to access any more records on my subject until January next year so I wont find out who put him there (I am assuming the board of guardians for his poor union) and when he was discharged/left.

As others have said it later became a reform type school where those who couldnt be educated in normal surroundings were sent or those who had come into the arms of the law.  It would seem that it started to lose money around the 70s and was later sold off. 

I appologise for the repeating of some information but I cuoldnt tell the history as I understand it without doing so

Rob

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Sussex / Re: Robertsbridge, East Sussex
« on: Monday 07 April 25 14:22 BST (UK)  »
I know this is a very old post but I wanted to add that until 2001 I lived on Heathfield Gardens and being a now retired archaeologist I decided to put in a small  dig in my back yard.  I expected to find nothing but during that small dig I found a think layer of tarmac and just under that a button which on investigation after came from an Italian trench coat.  WHilst I had it in mind that this must have been from a POW camp I could find no evidence to support that argument and in fact the older generations around my then address couldnt remember one there.  I had to say that the provenance of the button and tarmac surface was disturbed because when I got to the bottom there was a modern waste pipe running under it all.  To read roys post brought back the memories and as given me now the proof I needed to say my old home was built on an Old POW camp site. 

Im not sure if the ROberstbridge arch society was still active when this thread was new.  I was a member of Hastings group as I couldnt find one locally active

Rob

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Hull Sanatorium Hedon Road not castle hill
« on: Friday 04 April 25 09:53 BST (UK)  »
He was  a prisoner I found a newspaper report explaining whats his crime was.

ty for your responses

Rob

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Other Countries / Re: Ceylon Births
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 21:31 BST (UK)  »
Thx for the reply and as the uncle at the moment is not a part of my research so id not looked at those records.  This would explain the brown comment. 

Im trying to find the birth record and the incoming passenger records in the hope parentage may be found.  Using the uncle may be a route worth trying so again ty again

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Other Countries / Ceylon Births
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 20:13 BST (UK)  »
I have today come across a birth in 1888 in Petal Ceylon.  Ive spent most of the day following link after link searching records on FindMyPast familysearch other online resources with no avail.  All of the links followed appear on here as well in a few threads previously started.

Francis Pulley was born in 1888 according to census and his WWI soldiers records.  The place of birth given was petal Colombo.  As I have said all searches of birth records seem to turn up a blank. 

His military records list his next of kin as an Uncle in Norwich close to where he was living when he joined up/was conscripted.  Interestingly those papers also state he suffers with Ague caused by him being brown.   

This threw me because id assumed before reading this is ethinc make up would have been white.  So question one would be as a British owned country would the people there have been granted British citizenship because of this.

His colour makes no difference in the terms of this research. 

Second question is does anyone know of any incoming ships lists other than those on Ancestry and FindMyPast

Finally I know civil registration was in place by 1888 in Ceylon but what was the uptake of people registering births there at this time

Rob

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