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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Monday 25 November 19 23:37 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, Sue. I found it a curious obituary too with its focus on this row which took place so many years before his death in 1876.
 I know that he had been in Australia since 1852 but he had lived 2/3 of his life, 46 years in Ireland. He had spent an important career as a land agent to the Londonderry family there and had achieved much even though it ended badly for him in a court case and insolvency in 1851.
Much of the legal and financial controversy went above my head but I was interested to see that in spite of his financial setbacks, he ended up comfortably off.

A thought:
If History is as much about what we choose to forget as what we decide to remember, no where is it truer than with obituaries.
Paul

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Monday 25 November 19 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
Sue
This is fascinating but very complex. I hadn't spotted the information on the issue of alleged corruption re John Lanktree's arbitration on the value of his son's land purchase.

What I was focusing on was his conflict as Secretary to the Water and Sewage Commissioners with their Engineer over the specifications for pipe work supplied for the supply of water from the Yan Yean reservoir to Melbourne. It's longwinded as you say but intriguing.
Paul

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Monday 25 November 19 06:50 GMT (UK)  »
Meticulous research, Jamjar. Amazing detail unearthed. My original hope was to learn something about John Langtree 1806-1876 and this has been surpassed. Thank you all.
Paul

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Sunday 24 November 19 23:16 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, there is an issue with the name spelling. This is common with Irish/Gaelic names which were written phonetically when anglicised and thus leads to many variations. But it's surprising in an English name such as Lanktree. It sometimes appears as Langtree or Langtry.

John's Will is the icing on the cake. I can't wait to read it. Unfortunately it won't download and the advice is that long files may be better downloaded outside office hours.
Paul

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria ... PS, PS
« on: Sunday 24 November 19 16:24 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies ... I've just noticed that when I changed the spelling to Lanktree, the Trove newspaper Archive delivers the goods.

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Sunday 24 November 19 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
This research is mind blowing. I'm very appreciative to all you Rootschat experts. Your industry was only matched by John and Elizabeth. I had no idea that they had such a large family ... 14 at the last count! One of the elder sons, Matthew died in Brisbane 1859 aged 28. It will take some time to absorb all this detail about the family and descendants. But back to John Langtree 1806-1876 apart from the obituary, I don't see any other reference to him in the Trove Newspaper Archive. His offspring had a higher profile.

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Sunday 24 November 19 00:13 GMT (UK)  »
This is very promising. I now know about his arrival with family in Australia.

I see an obituary here that tells me about his support for building a church. He certainly had great experience in Ireland as this link might show ... He was the land agent who was responsible for the building of this magnificent residence, Garron Tower.
http://lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2013/10/garron-tower.html

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Australia / Re: John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Saturday 23 November 19 21:15 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that, Sparrett ... Find a grave website is wonderful for family detail I wasn't aware of. I have a good understanding of his life in Ireland but his life in Australia is pretty much a blank page as far as we in Ireland are concerned. I don't know my way round Australian records and have had difficulty finding any detail on his Australian story between his arrival in the early 1850s and 1876.

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Australia / John Langtree/Langtry Melbourne, Victoria
« on: Saturday 23 November 19 11:33 GMT (UK)  »
I am interested in discovering more about John Langtree (sometimes written as Lanktree),
b. 18April 1806 and d. 16May 1876.
He left Ireland some time after 1851 for Australia, having been employed as a Land Agent and having written "The Elements of Land Valuation ..." 1853. Find A Grave locates his burial at Carlton, Melbourne City Cemetery and provides further detail about his Irish parents and his family. Any help will be appreciated.

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