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Many years have passed since I posted this - I'm just picking it up again. If you are still around Andy I would very much love to see the photos

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thanks carole

he was born around 1750 so won't be in the census

I have found that David Davies was ordained Deacon 14 August 1774 by the Bisho of St David's and, on the same day, he was licensed as Curate at Henllan (Teifi) with a stipend of £15.

next step is the parish records to see if I can find his parents

regards

manaw

PS it isn't easy being a davies and looking for records in this area - you are right.  practically every page in the census hasa davies :)

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David Davies was rector of st davids Henllan and Bangor Teifi in the second half of the 18th cent.  Does anyone have details of the clergy at this church.  I don't have specific dates for him.  I am also looking for his parents.

thanks in advance

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thanks osprey.  the name appears in 1841 and 1851 as tirsime and tyrshyme. I can't find it on the OS map but I have found other houses adjacent to it in the census. It is near cwmduad and is either no longer in existence or has had it's name changed (probably to something like dunroamin  :) )

the grid ref is SN 374 306 GB Grid and the nearby houses are danygribin and llyn y gwair

I did make some more progress last night in that I found pantyffynnon farm. encouragingly it is only about a mile or so from talgoed which is where daniel davies lived so it is looking increasingly likely that margaret was his daughter.  took me some time to find pantyffynnon because it is supposedly in Llangeler but is actually nowhere near the village itself. grid ref SN 423 376 GB Grid is midway between the two houses.

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Carmarthenshire Completed Requests / Re: can't find conwil elvet 1841 census
« on: Friday 14 December 07 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
bit of success.  not only have I ofund John P but I also have the marriage certificate of his parents benjamin and mary and it shows his father as being from tirsime in conwil elved and her parents being john and mary evans of pantyffynon in llangeler. (not sure about the exact derivation of tirsime - it is obviously ty'r s.... - just can't make out the last few letters in the word on the marriage cert - I can certainly find it in the 1841 census)

The 1851 record of pantyffynon shows that mary's mother Margaret was from Llanfihangel.  The link I am looking for is between Margaret and the person I think is her father - Daniel Davies of Talgoed, Llanfihangel ar Arth.

What I need to do now is to check the marriage records of Margaret and John Evans at the Llanfihangel Parish Church which is St Michael's. I assume that being from Llanfihangel Margaret's marriage would have been recorded here.

I live in Lincoln but am planning a trip down to Carmarthenshire in February.  If anyone had access to the marriage records of Llanfihangel from circa 1820 and could determine whether Margaret's parents were indeed Daniel and Ann I would be most grateful.  Otherwise I will wait until Feb.

Diolch



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Carmarthenshire Completed Requests / Re: can't find conwil elvet 1841 census
« on: Tuesday 27 November 07 14:09 GMT (UK)  »
I have found john p' birth cert.  his mother was mary evans of pantyffynnon, llangeler.  also believe I have found the marriage cert of benjamin & mary, registered in newcastle emlyn - it is on it's way so hopefully this will help. I had previously been looking for marriages registered in carmarthen.

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Carmarthenshire Completed Requests / Re: can't find conwil elvet 1841 census
« on: Sunday 18 November 07 14:37 GMT (UK)  »
The birth certificate for John Phillip Davies tells us that his mother's maiden name was Evans. According to the census she lived previously at Pantyffynnon farm, Llangeler,  with her parents John and Margaret.

I think I'm going to have to spend some time reading through the archives re FfynnonHenry and Penybont churches as I still don't see the link between Benjamin and Daniel. A list of the family of Daniel would be useful - by the time of the 1841 census he is an old man and his children will have mostly left home.

thanks to everyone for their help and pointers.

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Carmarthenshire Completed Requests / Re: can't find conwil elvet 1841 census
« on: Monday 12 November 07 21:10 GMT (UK)  »
looks like they were llandeilofawr pre 1935

I've sent off for the birth cert - it's a good job they gave him two Christian names - John Davies is about as common as they get.

Also his birth was registered in June whilst the census was in April so the fact that he was 3 in the 1861 census is consistent with this.

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Carmarthenshire Completed Requests / Re: can't find conwil elvet 1841 census
« on: Sunday 11 November 07 21:49 GMT (UK)  »
I can find 16 John Davies' whose births were registered at carmarthen in 1858 which is the year I think he was born.

there is 1 john phillip davies registered at llandeilofawr in 1857.

the census shows that my john p davies was born either in llangathen or llanfynydd (2 differnt censuses say different birth locations for the same person).

my question is where would someone born in llangathen or llanfynydd have their birth registered?  my instinct is to say carmarthen because his father came from conwil elvet but I would probably have to go and look at the records in person because it could get expensive to order all the certificates.

however it might be worth taking a punt on john phillip's cert if it turns out that people born in llangathen or llanfynydd were registered in llandeilofawr.

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