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Argyllshire / Re: Duncan BLUE - lost at sea
« on: Tuesday 04 February 25 23:50 GMT (UK)  »
Certainly the age matches the child in the 1841 records.  If you can exclude this 18 year old merchant seaman being the son of the Mckinlay named in the 1892 death certificate then this is a candidate.

I don't know how that can be done as none of the dates people on this forum have already found match the information that is available for the two Duncan Blues we are aware of!

 I am not sure whether I would prefer that the Duncan (mentioned on the gravestone) died before records for death began in 1855 or shared the fate of his paternal grandfather - either way it would seem a life cut off too soon. 

Sadly I have found that some mysteries hang there as the documentation does not exist - but there have been occasions when something does clarify matters.  I hope this happens for Duncan.
SG

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Argyllshire / Re: Duncan BLUE - lost at sea
« on: Tuesday 04 February 25 03:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi David,

By odd co-incidence I have been looking at your family and making links in Find A Grave between members buried in Scotland, Northern Ireland and the USA.  I had just looked at the grave you mention of William Blue d. 9 Oct 1847, his wife Susanna Galbraith d. 9 Mar 1888, their son Duncan and William Blue.

Obviously you are working from stories in your family tradition written by those who knew more than I ever can.  However I offer this interpretation of the gravestone inscription that seems to me to reconcile all the information you have posted.

The last three lines of the gravestone inscription read:

AND OF WILLIAM BLUE
FATHER OF THE ABOVE WILLIAM
REPORTED LOST AT SEA

I think this indicates that Duncan’s grandfather William is the individual who was ‘lost at sea’.

When I looked at this gravestone I assumed that Duncan died as an infant – the fact you found him as a 5 year old in 1841 puts a DOB c. 1836 and so before official birth records began.  Admittedly In 1851 a 15 year old could have been living and working elsewhere - but I had assumed this Duncan died as an infant. 

Listing the name of deceased children without giving dates of birth or death is not uncommon – there are three listed on the gravestone of Duncan’s brother William Blue d.  19 June 1890 (Flora, Richard & Susie). 

Yesterday I had looked up the years of the births and deaths for these children and offered them as suggested edits to the manager of the memorial – which possibly accounts for why I viewed the inscription for Duncan as for that of a deceased infant.

I suggest it is worth considering that Duncan died before official records were kept (1 January 1855). 

It is possible that the gravestone inscription has been mis-interpretated a century ago as those who read them did not have the luxury to studying computer screens at their leisure (!)

As I may be wrong in how I have interpreted the information I hope you have the breakthrough you have been looking for.

All the best
SG

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Antrim / Re: Would love some help in my search for the parents of Charles Crymble 1795
« on: Wednesday 16 June 21 22:58 BST (UK)  »
Lucius & Jane are commemorated on a gravestone in Movilla Cemetery, Newtownards.  It is not clear they are buried there as the gravestone was erected by their son Samuel in memory of his infant daughter Frances.  It can be viewed in 'Find a Grave' website.  I have posted some info. in Family search on this family (I was looking at the Neill Family of Bangor and followed the 'hints'). The family seemed to move to Belfast from Newtownards with some then moving to Bangor. Many Belfast business families had residences in Bangor - probably the Rail link made it viable.

All the best with your research

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Kildare / Re: George Frederick Long bC1828 Kildare
« on: Saturday 17 October 20 05:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
I have been looking at a George Long who married Lizzie Carson on 4 Aug 1853  in the Reformed Pres. Meeting House Loughbrickland, Banbridge County Down.  You can view the marriage register in Irish Genealogy. 
The father of this George was Robert Long 'Gentleman'.  George is listed as a Land Agent's Assistant.
I have found only the birth of one child after the Registration of births was introduced (Robert Alexander Long 1864-1864). 
The list of children I believe includes James Carson Long 1855-1913 buried in Belfast , Sedgwick Rea Long 1856-1894 died in Manhattan (sources marriage and death registrations), a baby Robert Edward Alexander Long 1863-1863 who is buried with his mother and namesake in Banbridge, Scarva Street Presbyterian Graveyard. (Find a Grave website). I believe the William R Long in the 1880 New York census return (living in a boarding house with Sedgwick R Long)  is also a child of George and  Elizabeth. 
George was listed as George Frederick Long on the marriage certificate of James C long in Killyleagh in 1883. 
I think this is the same family - do these names tie in with the information you have?  Hoping this is of interest SG

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Down / Re: MOVILLA cemetery Newtownards
« on: Tuesday 15 April 08 17:25 BST (UK)  »
This might help:

www.ards-council.gov.uk

A-Z of services click C

Select Cemetery Services

N.B Movilla is not named (S.G)


Ards Borough Council

2 Church Street
Newtownards
Co.Down
BT23 4AP
Tel: 028 9182 4000
Fax: 028 9181 9628

ards[at]ards-council.gov.uk

"CEMETERY SERVICES

The Council's Parks and Cemeteries section is responsible for the maintenance of 12 cemeteries in the Ards.

Reception staff in the main Council offices have access to burial records dating back to the 1800s and can help with genealogical research.

Cemeteries are open from 8.00am until dusk."

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Completed Census Requests / Re: British Isles Vital Records Index look up
« on: Monday 19 November 07 02:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

As this query is over two years old your research will have moved on and you may already know the info. I am giving.

In our family we have a Miss. Sydney Everest Fisher born on 16th July 1879.  This was one of three girls in the family given the name Sydney, the others were a cousin Sydney Everest Fisher Clark and this Sydney's daughter - Sydney Murphy. 

Miss Sydney Everest Fisher spent her last years in Westbury on Trym near Bristol and died unmarried on Jan 18th 1967.

Her father was Hugh Dugan Fisher (9th Sept 1842-1891).  He was born in Ireland and lived in England although his parents emigrated to New York State in the USA.

I hope that you have found the Sydney Fisher you are looking for.

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Thursday 08 November 07 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I've just noticed that you want a look up in Vol. 5 of Gravestone inscriptions.

I have it to hand.  In Comber Graveyard (C of I) there are two McCormick burials recorded unfortunately no townlands are mentioned:

McCORMICK
[Probably of 1778.] Here lyeth the body of John McCormick, son to Alexander McCorkick who desesed the 7 of March '78 he being of age 12 years.

McCORMICK
[White marble.] In memory of Thomas McCormick who died 23rd Novr. 1863 aged 55 years. Also his son Thomas who died 24th May 1878 aged 19 years. Also his wife Margaret who died 24th Octr. 1879 aged 70 years.

You know that Ballyrainey is on the Dundonald side of Comber but much closer to Comber than Dundonald - but people seemed to manage to ensure that burials took place in the family ground no matter how far that was! 

My on my mother's side there are McCormicks from near Killinchy.  After 1845 they are buried in the Non-Subscribing Presbyterian Graveyard before that in Killinchy Parish Church - but I do not think that there are gravestones there. 

There is another family who have graves in Tullynakill (between Killinchy & Comber). 

We think that these families cross Strangford from the Ards Peninsula in the late 18th century.  There are burials in graveyards on the peninsula - but I am not certain where.

I will keep a look out for the McCormicks of Ballyrainey.

Hope some of this is of interest

SG

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:35 GMT (UK)  »
???
Sorry Part two doesn't read properly - it should have been:

In the Orr Pedigree (most easily accessed through this version:
Ulster Pedigrees by Ray A. Jones 1977 Lib. of Congress Catalog Card No:77-82468)
one McCormick family from Dundonald is mentioned.
The Pedigree was drawn up by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh (1756-1830).

I do not know what happened to the Bullet points in the 3rd message - the buttons don't deliver what they promise!

SG

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Down / Re: Where were they buried?
« on: Wednesday 07 November 07 00:29 GMT (UK)  »
3rd time lucky?

The first McCormick mentioned is Samuel (no dates prob. c. 1700)

Margaret Orr m. Samuel McCormick
their children:

  • Henington McCormick of Dundonald m. Agnes (Nancy) Allen
    Margaret McCormick m. Matthew Carruthers of Ballyhanwood
    Elizabeth McCormick m. Wm. Summerside
    Jane McCormick m. John Kearns of CherryValley (prob. Comber)
    Lilly McCormick m. Robert Finlay of "nr. Saintfield"
 

There are children listed for Marg. Eliz. & Jane

Henington McCormick and Agnes (Nancy) Allen had 3 children:

  • Elizabeth McCormick m. John McClure of Ballyrickart
    Isabella McCormick m. James Clark of Newtownards
    James McCormick (of Mountpottinger) m. Susanna Anderson

There are children listed for Isabella only

James McCormick & Susanna Anderson had 7 children:

  • Hugh McCormick
    Richard McCormick
    Agnes McCormick
    Sarah McCormick
    James McCormick Jnr.
    Gawin McCormick
    John McCormick

If you think these are yr. ancestors I can give you details of previous generations.

SG

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