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The Lighter Side / Re: What is the biggest mystery in your tree?
« on: Sunday 01 March 09 08:37 GMT (UK)  »
Why do G G Grandparents hide away? I have been able to trace back to them on both sides, but after that the male side cannot be found. I have established quite a lot but they remain a complete mystery.

Could it be that those stories of babies being found at the bottom of the garden are true??


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Midlothian / Re: Old Photos
« on: Sunday 28 September 08 05:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ian, 

I have emailed Westport books and the previous owner (that is his address you gave) is the one who sent me the pictures. He thought that the modern one was built in the 1880's, but not sure of the date.

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Midlothian / Re: OLD PHOTOS
« on: Friday 26 September 08 10:07 BST (UK)  »
The second one didn't load there I will try and attach it here. Westport 149, St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh.

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Midlothian / Old Photos
« on: Friday 26 September 08 10:05 BST (UK)  »
I have established that my GG Grandparents lived at Westport 149 in 1841 and 1851 (and possibly before) from census returns. I have been sent these two pictures. I was wondering could anybody date when the current building would have been erected?


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Sussex / Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« on: Tuesday 09 September 08 08:31 BST (UK)  »
I now have that copy of the death certificate for Christiana Greves, female age 22years, who died on October 27, 1853, in Newick.

On it she is shown as the wife of William Greves (Groom).  The cause of death is shown as phthisis:

Definition of Phthisis

Phthisis: A good trivia or crossword item. An over-consonanted Greek word meaning "a dwindling or wasting away." Pronounced TIE-sis.

Phthisis is an archaic name for tuberculosis. A person afflicted with tuberculosis in the old days was destined to dwindle and waste away like Mimi, the heroine of Puccini's 1896 opera "La Bohème."

The informant is shown as Sarah Budgen present at the death.

I think that all the little bits and pieces have now been, if not proven, well and truly fitted together, and I have little doubt now that Christiana was indeed my G G Grandmother.

Unfortunately this still leaves the marriage record (if indeed there was one) and birth record of the son William somewhat clouded, but another piece is set solidly in the jig saw.  The search is not over but at least one chapter has closed.   

Thank you all for your kindness and assistance in this matter. It certainly helps to know that such an abundance of help is so readily available.

Cheers from Australia,

Malcolm.      :)

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Sussex / Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« on: Monday 01 September 08 08:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Valda,

I think it best to wait now until I have the copy of death certificate for Christiana.  Should be here in a week or so.

However another one from left field. There was a birth in East Grinstead in December quarter 1852 of a William with no surname.  Volume 2b, page 113.  I looked for a death of a William with no surname but could not find one.

Cheers,

Malcolm.

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Sussex / Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« on: Sunday 31 August 08 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Valda,

I have tried IGI, Batch Numbers, Sussex Weald, Sussex Family History Society, all to no avail. I have tried to find a member searching for this family on Genes Reunited, again with no success. Can you suggest any other sites that I may be able to search? The Budgen connection is tenuous at the very least and contains a lot of supposition.

Cheers,

Malcolm.

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Sussex / Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« on: Sunday 31 August 08 07:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Valda. I have found that death entry now. Looks like another theory gone west. It was just a clutching at straws, but in the overall context it seemed a highly possible solution.  I think you are probably right, if these are the parents, that the birth could have taken place in either Brighton or Lewes.  I still have that death certificate coming so will wait and see what that brings.

Cheers

Malcolm

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Sussex / Re: WILLIAM GREAVES 1852 NEWICK
« on: Saturday 30 August 08 12:50 BST (UK)  »
It looks like Sarah Budgen was born 1796 as Sarah Pomphrey in Newick (or Chailey)  the daughter of John and Mary Pomfrey.  In 1823 she married William Harland and they had a daughter Jane b 1824 at Newick. In 1832 Sarah married James Budgen and they had two children – Christiana b 1834 and James b 1836.   Jane Harland assumed the name Jane Budgen for the 1851 Census.

I have sent to the GRO for birth certificate for a male Budgen born 1851 in East Grinstead (maybe this is the one I am after) and the death certificate of Christiana Greves. These will probably take a couple of weeks to get here. It will be interesting to see if they shed any light on the matter.

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