RootsChat.Com

Thanks SwissGill
You're probably right I've found several Schonhuts on the databases one had an enormous shop in Rotherham employing quite a few staff and a couple of others in Yorkshire all Pork Butchers. I'll suggest this spelling to the people who contacted me. It will save Richard a lot of work for nothing! Histress probably has them on his database
Thanks again

Hi Richard
I have had some messages via my website from someone who originally came from Nottingham but is now living in Spain, I just wondered if there are any links with your family? I can't trace any links with German Pork Butchers.

"Any light on Master Butcher Henry Rands Hodson from Wellingborough 1890 on?
Henry Rands Hodson had a butchers shop at 36 High Street,Irthlingborough in 1911
Since the family came from Earls Barton/Finedon/Irthlingborough/Wellingborough it is possible his outlets could have been in any of this places. He was well heeled. He was preparing to set up in Canada.
Their were 3 sons and a daughter from Rands and the daughter married an Allebone. Alieda VT came over as an au pair. The Hodsons actualy migrated from Upwell in Norfolk.
Interestingly, Jane's father was a pork butcher supplier and might well have come into contact with your family.
Also my family came from Germany and settled in Spittlegate. They came from Hessen and the name was Ditzel
Henry J R Hodson
    Mother's Maiden Surname: Van Tiggelen
    Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1925
    Registration district: Wellingbro'
    Registration County: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire

I think that James T Hodson had shops in Winstanley Road, Wellingborough  and. his son in Irthlingborough
 
I saw the name Scohnot which was a shop my father in law called in as a rep.His name was Herbert "Tiny" Hodson.
 

I have just been reading through your Rothermel history notes which convince  me that the Hodson family would have known the Rothermell family both in Northampton and Nottingham. Unfortunately my parents are both dead and did not leave any diaries.
 
The name Scohnot? was probably Schonot? and was listed in your notes somewhere.
 
After working for his father Tiny Hodson worked for a man called Alfred Bach who was a pork product supplier. Could he have been German?"

So many questions I cannot seem to answer, the Schonot surname is so similar to yours!
Any ideas??

Best wishes

 

Hi Richard
So you probably know all there is to know at the moment!
It all takes time. I have been researching my Rothermels since 2006 and it's only recently that things are really coming together. If your family were anything like mine the German connection was never mentioned. We made a trip out there to the village where my ancestors lived, also to the church where they were baptised. By chance we met an old lady in the village who was very helpful. Little by little we pieced things together. I think you need to get in touch with the archives in Wurttemburg and perhaps search through the trade directories to find out about the Butchers shop. I will ask my German friends in Stuttgart if they have any ideas for you.
Best of luck!

Hi Richard
This German Pork Butcher research is really addictive and with the help of Histres who has a large database of names and dates we are all finding out a lot more about our families. I will take a look to see if I can find anything for you
Best of luck!

Hi BecGilbert
Today I have searched all the UK Birth indexes and not one child was born named either Weller of Geller between 1888 and 1895. Your grandfather was a Pork Butchers Assistant at 74 Carlisle Road Manningham Bradford Yorkshire and Caroline Geller was a servant in the shop. She appeared to have a brother called Carl born 1868 living in 15 Carlisle Terrace in Manningham, he was a Commercial Clerk. There was also a George Geller who may have been another brother working as a Pork Butchers assistant in Manchester for Lene Pheiffer. Caroline Geller married in December 1898 in Woolwich south London, it must have been her as she was the only one with that name in the country! I have traced Carl he emigrated to the USA in 1900 and married Theresa ( also German) and they appear on the US 1910 Census in New Jersy he was a cotton merchant.
I just had a thought - do you think Franky made his employer Annie pregnant? She was a young woman around 4 years older than him.  Frederick Beyer was born to her in September 1894, your grandfather left for the US in April 1894, she would have been around 3 months pregnant at the time. Perhaps he had to make a quick exit and for the rest of his life had to pay for his sins so as to keep the scandal quiet? When he married perhaps he named his daughter after her to keep the memory going?
This is why it was such a tightly kept secret in your family?
Best wishes