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The Common Room / Re: Destruction of records
« on: Today at 11:55 »
Quote from: MollyC on Today at 11:11
where the archive is of local importance

And there lies the crux of many problems - who decides what is important.

It is entirely possible that what I consider important differs from what others consider to be important especially if they have no or little interest in Family History.
It is not always possible to preserve every record or every piece of information and in many cases privacy regulations could prohibit their retention and in the case of private businesses who cease trading who should pick up the bill ?



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The Common Room / Re: Destruction of records
« on: Yesterday at 15:59 »
It is tragic - especially for those in the particular case highlighted.

Realistically though who would pay for the digitisation of these records or even for additional storage space if it was decided to keep the papers.

As far as the suggestion to digitise and dispose of the originals to create space , this was proposed by the Government for some archives and there was a huge outcry against it.


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Gloucestershire / Re: Charged with concealing a birth
« on: Monday 18 August 25 14:13 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately there is little to go on - it's possible that this man found the remains of the child and reported it or as you say he may have been the father it is unlikely that the full story will be known.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Charged with concealing a birth
« on: Monday 18 August 25 10:41 BST (UK)  »
Sadly a key element of the crime is the death of the child.

It was a very difficult crime for the authorities to prosecute as it relied upon having to prove that the accused did not tell anyone and that she did not call out or make use of assistance at the time of the birth - in many ways it put the onus on the accused to prove their innocence.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Charged with concealing a birth
« on: Sunday 17 August 25 22:02 BST (UK)  »
Concealment of a pregnancy and the subsequent birth and death of the child was a criminal offence first enacted according to a research paper I've read around 1803  in England & wales (1809 in Scotland). Primarily aimed at unmarried women it was later reinforced in England Wales and written into The Offences against the Person Act of 1861.

There are several scenarios which could lead to the lack of any procedure
1. The child lived
2. The woman had informed someone she was pregnant
3. At the time of Birth the woman had called for assistance.

Added: It was not linked to a failure to register the Birth but was a crime in its own right.

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Date display on FTM2019
« on: Saturday 16 August 25 14:43 BST (UK)  »
In the attached extract from the manual it refers only to day month year or the american version month day year. The image for setting this up appears to indicate other choices in the month description (the small triangle) this may be worth investigating to see if you prefer the options available.

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The Common Room / Re: Custody Evidence
« on: Wednesday 13 August 25 12:37 BST (UK)  »
Before 1927, when the Adoption Act came into force in England & Wales, there was no requirement to maintain records of any adoption whether it was within the greater family group or with complete strangers.

Some Church & Charity groups did maintain records but if your suspicions about this adoption are correct there would probably have been no paper trail.

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Scotland / Re: Huntly trade/PO Directory, 1870s?
« on: Monday 11 August 25 14:19 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately the Post Office Directories for Aberdeen (available through Archive.org) appear to be for the City rather than surrounding towns & Villages. The wider area is covered by Macdonalds Gazeteers but the earliest mention I could find of either gentleman was in the 1885 Gazeteer Pages 412 - 414 where George Penny is listed under Photographer.

As an aside and possibly no connection but the 1875 Directory for Aberdeen City has a John Penny, Photographer at Donalds Court

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The Common Room / Re: Definition of adulterer/adulteress
« on: Thursday 07 August 25 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Gan Yam on Thursday 07 August 25 15:54 BST (UK)
If you have to be married to be an adulterer, then in Scotland and Northern Ireland you have to be at least 16 and in England and Wales you have to be at least 18. Not sure that makes you an adult though.

Adult and Adultery do not share a common root, so no you don't have to be an "adult" to commit adultery, just married.

At one point the marriage age (in Scotland) was 14 for males and 12 for females - this was later raised to 16 for both and is now under consideration to be raised again to 18 to conform to UN conventions.

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