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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Thursday 09 August 12 11:17 BST (UK) »
I am not following you on the name? Is it the same name twice for the father of Ann Treharn?
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Wednesday 08 August 12 11:02 BST (UK) »
Hi
We have got this marriage and it's the wrong one. Really not sure where to go now.
I see on that 1861 census that you found Ann Jones as widow she was born Cador, Glamorgan. Parish of Cadoxton Juxta Neath so might look around for that year born 1795c.
Kazza
We have got this marriage and it's the wrong one. Really not sure where to go now.
I see on that 1861 census that you found Ann Jones as widow she was born Cador, Glamorgan. Parish of Cadoxton Juxta Neath so might look around for that year born 1795c.
Kazza
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 14:19 BST (UK) »
Totally agree there, I looked on the image and you can see that it is Ebenezer. I can see now how misleading this can be when names are sometimes spelt how they sound or transcribed how people see it.
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 13:44 BST (UK) »
Ok I have found them on the 1861 census too. So John Jones b. 1842 is a grandson so that solves that issue. How did you get Ebenezer from Ghangred Jones?? I would not have looked at this census because of that name.
Now back to John JONES and Sarah nee REES. (1861 census) On the birth of their children Sarah and David it states Sarah Jones formerly REES of Blackpill Lane. I have been told they were market gardeners there.
Maybe you are right and Sarah Rees married prior. Now this David I talk about is my great grandfather, like I said his death cert in NZ has his mother maiden name as REES. I have since found his marriage cert here in Australia and it says his mothers maiden name is MILLS.
David Jones is still on the 1881 census with his uncle Ebenezer and David came to Australia and married in 1895 not sure when he came out or what boat etc. He then went to NZ with his family and died there.
Now back to John JONES and Sarah nee REES. (1861 census) On the birth of their children Sarah and David it states Sarah Jones formerly REES of Blackpill Lane. I have been told they were market gardeners there.
Maybe you are right and Sarah Rees married prior. Now this David I talk about is my great grandfather, like I said his death cert in NZ has his mother maiden name as REES. I have since found his marriage cert here in Australia and it says his mothers maiden name is MILLS.
David Jones is still on the 1881 census with his uncle Ebenezer and David came to Australia and married in 1895 not sure when he came out or what boat etc. He then went to NZ with his family and died there.
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 13:26 BST (UK) »
Well the plot does thicken. lol
I have got Ebenezer right through to the 1911 census, he married Rachel REES later in life 26 March 1894 I have the marriage certificate with father Lewis JONES. Yes Ebenezer is Abenezer on one census and Eleanor on another but on the image it says Ebenezer so his name was recorded wrong in places. The place he lived at Blaenhonddan Cadoxton saved me several times.
I also have that 1871 census same family which I thought was mine. I have a death certificate for both John and Sarah Jones and their daughter Sarah in 1866 from Cholera. I was told that the 2 boys David and Gwilym went to live with the uncles in Cadoxton which proves this on the 1871 census. I also have John Jones Will which states the same. Ann Jones was left the estate until the others were of age.
I have got Ebenezer right through to the 1911 census, he married Rachel REES later in life 26 March 1894 I have the marriage certificate with father Lewis JONES. Yes Ebenezer is Abenezer on one census and Eleanor on another but on the image it says Ebenezer so his name was recorded wrong in places. The place he lived at Blaenhonddan Cadoxton saved me several times.
I also have that 1871 census same family which I thought was mine. I have a death certificate for both John and Sarah Jones and their daughter Sarah in 1866 from Cholera. I was told that the 2 boys David and Gwilym went to live with the uncles in Cadoxton which proves this on the 1871 census. I also have John Jones Will which states the same. Ann Jones was left the estate until the others were of age.
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 12:21 BST (UK) »
Oh dear this is becoming confusing now. My friend said she found them with the parents I mentioned. Maybe they are grandson's of Ann JONES?
I was certain she checked Find my Past for them.
I was certain she checked Find my Past for them.
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 11:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks WelshJo, no I haven't found John JONES on the 1851 census yet. Still looking for him.
For Parish records would I need to belong to Find my Past or is there another site available please?
For Parish records would I need to belong to Find my Past or is there another site available please?
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 11:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply.
First yes Lewis Jones died in Aug 1849. I found his death on FreeReg.
I too wondered how a younger John was born to Ann but after a friend checked find my past John and Jenkin the 2 last children on 1851 census belong to John and Margaret Jones b. 1842 and Jenkin Jones b. 1851 to William and Jennett. Not sure why it gave them as son's to Ann Jones.
So as far as it works out this is my family.
The Reed Fach family I am picking as mine from other research. I know that John JONES married Sarah REES because I have their son David born 1864 birth cert which gives the mother as Sarah REES and he is my great grandfather. He came to Australia then New Zealand and I have his death certificate as mother's maiden name Sarah REES.
First yes Lewis Jones died in Aug 1849. I found his death on FreeReg.
I too wondered how a younger John was born to Ann but after a friend checked find my past John and Jenkin the 2 last children on 1851 census belong to John and Margaret Jones b. 1842 and Jenkin Jones b. 1851 to William and Jennett. Not sure why it gave them as son's to Ann Jones.
So as far as it works out this is my family.
The Reed Fach family I am picking as mine from other research. I know that John JONES married Sarah REES because I have their son David born 1864 birth cert which gives the mother as Sarah REES and he is my great grandfather. He came to Australia then New Zealand and I have his death certificate as mother's maiden name Sarah REES.
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Wales / Re: Ann Treharn - Lewis Jones
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 01:59 BST (UK) »
Yes have located John and Sarah Jones in 1861 census - birthplace just says Glamorgan Swansea. Then nothing after that as they died of cholera in 1866. Daughter Ann has same birthplace.
I have found Lewis and Ann Jones - parents of John above, in later census's.
With the JONES name it's becoming very difficult to make sure I am getting the right ones related.
Why is there no marriage of John Jones and Sarah Rees. Did they get married?
I have found Lewis and Ann Jones - parents of John above, in later census's.
With the JONES name it's becoming very difficult to make sure I am getting the right ones related.
Why is there no marriage of John Jones and Sarah Rees. Did they get married?