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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Saturday 15 November 25 12:40 GMT (UK)  »
Doolittle, just one more entry in the gravedigger's day book for that plot, probably not much use to you but, you never know, it may help someone else.

THOMAS STEELE, labourer, Wishaw, aged 66 years. Married.
Parents - Thomas Steele & Margaret Haddow.
Interred in the old churchyard on 12th January 1874.

It's good to find these entries as they are not in the Plot Register, which was only begun a couple of years after this.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Friday 14 November 25 18:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Doolittle, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

Here's a transcript of the plot book you asked for. Like all plots in the old churchyard at Cambusnethan, it is divided into 3 lairs/compartments. North, South & Centre.

Please remember that this Plot Book only begins in the mid-1870s. There will be many more in there before then. all dates are of interment.

In the South -
MARGARET HARRISON, aged 26 years. 28th December 1887.

In the Centre -
THOMAS STEEL, aged 60 years. 3rd December 1894.

In the North -
JOHN WYLIE, aged 44 years. 30th December 1881.
THOMAS HARRISON, aged 2 weeks. 14th September 1885.
ROBERT HARRISON, aged 2 months. 22nd October 1885.
THOMAS STEEL, aged 75 years. 14th September 1939.
RACHEL STEELE, aged 100 years. 5th August 1966.

The registered owners, in Victorian times, were Thomas Steel & Margaret Haddow.

Would Rachel's father have been John Hamilton, aged 32 years when he died in 1877? Parents names Andrew Hamilton & ??? Smellie.

Also, do these couples fit into your family?
John Hamilton and Elizabeth B. Nisbet?
Peter Nisbet and Jane Melville?


As for Liddells and Binnies, they are my direct ancestors, mainly from Muiravonside, Polmont and Slamannan (all in Stirlingshire). PM me if you think you have a link to them.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Rose Street Glasgow
« on: Monday 10 November 25 17:26 GMT (UK)  »
A hard, hard time to be alive unless you had money behind you. My grandfather, born in 1911 in Commercial Rd, had 10 siblings, only he and his brother Tommy and sister Annie lived beyond 16. TB, pneumonia and whooping cough all took their toll in a 2 room flat.

Yes, all the children in one bed, all coughing into each other's face. Some didn't even have the luxury of a 2-roomed flat. Many, including some of my own family, lived in one room, a"kitchen" or "single-end" as they were known. One communal toilet on the half stair for about 5 - 8 families, big families! 

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Lanarkshire / Re: Rose Street Glasgow
« on: Monday 10 November 25 08:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Turner,

71 Rose Street was a tenement building, my great-grandparents lived there for a couple of years in the 1880s. They then moved to South Shamrock Street and by 1900, when the plague arrived, poverty, not the plague had left my granny an orphan at the age of fourteen. Both her parents and all her 7 siblings had died. "The good old days" that Maggie Thatcher wanted us to go back to!

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Doolittle,

Sadly, that stone has been vandalised and is unrecognisable now. I only identified it because it is on the same plot as an older stone which is still upright and in good condition. The plot is, of course, a Steel(e) family plot.
The transcription was done in 1983 and is as follows -

"Thomas Steele, Registrar of Cambusnethan died 30th November 1894 aged 60 years. His wife Agnes Scobie died 13th December 1878 aged 40 years. Their son Thomas, Registrar of Cambusnethan, died 12th September 1938. His wife Rachel Murie Hamilton died 3rd August 1966 aged 100 years".


According to the Plot register, Rachel was interred on 5th August. Her husband Thomas was aged 75 when he died. It was a busy plot, if you want any more info about who is in there, let me know.

Lodger.

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Scotland / Re: Mix up of names
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Don't waste time agonising about spelling. There was no such thing as 'correct' spelling of names until about the end of the 19th century.
Search for G*v*n* when wildcards are available in order to pick up all the possible variants.

Sound advice, as always, from Forfarian!

The burial records for Cambusnethan cemetery has the following entry, unfortunately, the interment was in Common Ground, so there is no other family member in the same grave, nor is there a headstone.

THOMAS McGURK, Wishaw, aged 23 months.
Parents - Alexander McGurk & Mary Ann Govan.
Interred in common ground on 27th January 1873.

The name Govan is not common in this cemetery, a few other entries are for children of Patrick Carroll & Helen Govan, also Patrick McKenna & mary Govan. There is also a David Govan residing at Binnie's Row, Newmains in 1915.

If you have a subscription to Ancestry UK you will have already found the poor relief applications from North Lanarkshire for Alexander McGurk. He is listed as being born in Barrhead, Neilson and his wife Mary Ann GAVIN as also born in Barrhead.
Their son Alexander has an excellent application in Bothwell parish which runs from 1899 until 1929. His parents are listed as being Alexander McGurk and Mary Ann GIVEN.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Monday 22 September 25 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Ard, here is the stone you asked for. Robert Hendry died 27th June 1879 aged 65 years. His wife Margaret Gray died 7th September 1892 aged 74 years. Their son John died 2nd December 1859 aged 2 years. Their daughter Ann King Hendry died 26th October 1942 aged 82 years.

Margaret Gray died in Edinburgh and is registered as Maggie Hendry, mother's maiden surname given as Swan. So you can have a look at the certificate. According to the free index on Scotlandspeople she died in the district of St Giles, so perhaps she was a patient at the Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Monday 22 September 25 16:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ard,

No Leggat's in South Dalziel or in the older, Old Manse Burial ground at Dalziel.
One Frew in south Dalziel, Catherine Frew, wife of John Liddell. She died 1865 aged 35 years.

There are a few Leggat's in Cambusnethan cemetery, also in the old burial ground adjoining the cemetery and in the small private burial ground there. Also in the ancient Cambusnethan churchyard at Kirkhill. But, the name Frew is very rarely mentioned in the Cambusnethan registers.
If you give me more information - including women's maiden surnames to match with male Leggat's it would help.

As for Halliday, there are a few in Cambusnethan, some related to my nephews. Carluke monumental inscriptions are in Sheila Scott's "The Upper Ward of Lanarkshire Monumental Inscriptions pre 1855". (A very snappy title). However, she tended to skip post 1855 stones and there is only 1 mention of the name Halliday, it's only a marker stone (to mark their plot) and the inscription is  "Erected by Archibald Hallady & Marion Penman 1829". These were my nephews 6 x gt grandparents.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Wednesday 10 September 25 08:11 BST (UK)  »

John Guy has been missing since 1865. Would he have buried his mother close to him or is Dalziel just be a cheaper option.


No, South Dalziel was the parish burial ground, so it was the only option. There was an older, out of the way "Dalziel Parish" burial ground but, by the mid-19th century it was full and only old Motherwell families who already had plots there were allowed to use it. No one by the name of Guy listed in the monumental inscriptions there either.
What do you know about John Guy? Origins? Occupation? The family may have moved here for work, Motherwell was a "boom" town in those days.

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