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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Thursday 17 July 25 17:36 BST (UK)  »
I don't want to confuse anyone but this is too interesting not to share, just as an example of what hidden gems there are to be found in the Glasgow parishes poor relief applications.

I must stress that, as far as I know, this is NOT the same Margaret Campbell Robertson as the one mentioned in CForlow's original post.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Thursday 17 July 25 15:54 BST (UK)  »
I had an appointment at the City Archives in the Mitchell Library today. So I had a look through the poor-relief applications but couldn't see anything that fitted for Maggie. There is a "Margaret Campbell Robertson", wife of William Robertson but, they were married in Crieff (Perthshire) in 1883 so it doesn't match, plus the parents don't match either. (They were a dreadful couple, both in and out of prison, she tried to strangle her son and attacked the policeman with a poker and a brush, when he intervened, while calling on someone to fetch her a hatchet!).

I did find what looks to be William senior.
The Archives reference is D/HEW 16/13/625 - 93774. Parish of Glasgow.

WILLIAM WEST ROBERTSON.

Application made by his brother Charles Robertson, with whom he resides.
Date of claim - 23rd May 1924. From 30 Oran Street, 1 up, right door.

Applicant was born 10th June 1861 at 51 Clyde Place, Tradeston (Glasgow)
Age - 63 years.
Condition - Single.

Parents - Charles Robertson, commercial traveller & Janet West. Both dead.

His brother had concern over his mental health and he was subsequently removed to hospital.

Not much information I'm afraid but it may help.

CForlow, have you checked all the information in your original post? Or have you taken it from someone else's work?

Oran Street would have been quite close to Sawmillfield St.

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Longford / Re: Location of townland
« on: Thursday 12 June 25 21:46 BST (UK)  »
Templemichael RC parish register (from the latin):

Baptised James son of Patrick Murphy & Ann McGiff, Sponsors William Joice? and Mary Byrne

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632370#page/72/mode/1up

(left page, 2nd entry under 7th January 1811)

Incredible stuff gaffy, thank you so much.

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Longford / Re: Location of townland
« on: Thursday 12 June 25 16:20 BST (UK)  »
By a stroke of luck, I found James Murphy in the 1891 census here in Scotland, living with his married daughter in Wishaw. He is described as a "visitor" but, 10 years later, he was still with her and I now have his death in 1901, parents names given as Patrick Murphy and Nancy McGiff.

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Donegal / Re: Curran and Stevenson Ramelton
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 23:56 BST (UK)  »
Rocky, this is my granda, James Curran born 1893 at Dumbarton and, on the left is his older brother Pat, born at Clooney in 1884.

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Donegal / Re: Curran and Stevenson Ramelton
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 23:52 BST (UK)  »
Rocky, this is my great-granda Joseph Curran in the centre of the picture, it was taken in 1917 in Motherwell. The young man on the left of the picture is Joe's youngest son, Charles and the other soldier on the right is John (Jack) McDaid, the son of Joe's eldest sister Kate, she was married to John McDade in Ramelton in 1884, they had 3 children born there before moving to Motherwell, where they had 3 more (including Jack). They then moved to Ontario and Joe's son Charles went out there with them. The 2 boys joined the Canadian army and were killed within a month of each other almost at the end of the war. I have visited both their graves in France.
If you look closely you can see Joe's "handlebar" moustache. The 2 girls in the picture were Joe's granddaughters.

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Donegal / Re: Curran and Stevenson Ramelton
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 23:42 BST (UK)  »

[/quote]Wille Ferguson was a 2nd cousin of my grandfather James Curran Ramelton and Bridget Dotherty was a sister of my grandmother Margaret who was married to James Curran the Roughan Ramelton
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Rocky, Your grandfather James Curran, (married to Margaret Doherty) would have been the son of Charles Curran and Ellen Doherty. Charles was the younger brother of my great-grandfather, Joseph curran who died here in Scotland in 1935.
This makes us 2nd cousins!

Here is a picture of Charles & Ellen with some of their children, I think your grandfather will be in the group. As far as I know it was taken at the Roughan.

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Longford / Re: Location of townland
« on: Wednesday 11 June 25 23:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Rathmore and Gaffy, James Murphy & Catherine Owens are exactly who I'm looking for.
Fantastic research, thank you so much.

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Longford / Re: Location of townland
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 21:26 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both so much Kiltaglassan and athacliath62, you have been most helpful.
The Peter Gray who was the witness at this marriage came to Scotland soon afterwards and there married the sister of the groom (Thomas Murphy) so they must have had a close connection in Longford. I can't find any Gray's in these Longford records and Murphy's are few and far between!

I know from their Scottish marriage and death certificates that the parents of Peter Gray were Peter Gray and Bridget Rawl (Raul? Rhawl?) and the parents of Thomas Murphy were James Murphy and Catherine Owens.

Thanks again for you help guys.

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