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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Wednesday 13 January 10 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for that information. There is a family story that John and a brother were in the work house so maybe that is the answer.
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Friday 31 August 07 22:31 BST (UK) »
will go and explore the name sthing, but was convinced that they were Royal Family names.hey are
:
John Henry Nye
Beatrice Nye
William Nye
Charles Leonard Nye
Grace Ellen Nye
George Stephen Nye
Ada Nye
Earnest Edward Nye
Rose Nye
Arthur William Nye
Jessie May Nye
Albert Edward Nye
Ethel Nye
Albert Edward Nye
Percy Albert Nye
And yes I do have 2 albert Edwards and they both died in childhood.
I want to thank you folk for helping me and making me so welcome. It has been so good to talk this out loud instead of it going round and round in my head.
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John Henry Nye
Beatrice Nye
William Nye
Charles Leonard Nye
Grace Ellen Nye
George Stephen Nye
Ada Nye
Earnest Edward Nye
Rose Nye
Arthur William Nye
Jessie May Nye
Albert Edward Nye
Ethel Nye
Albert Edward Nye
Percy Albert Nye
And yes I do have 2 albert Edwards and they both died in childhood.
I want to thank you folk for helping me and making me so welcome. It has been so good to talk this out loud instead of it going round and round in my head.
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Friday 31 August 07 18:02 BST (UK) »
Oh and if I get my John Nye back to Kent or sussex I promise to let everyone know. 
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Friday 31 August 07 18:01 BST (UK) »
Yes, it says the Father is John Nye Deceased Stonemason on the marriage cert.
But that in itself is interesting coz the Nye name is Kent and Sussex and a lots of the Nyes are listed as Bricklayers and Bricksetters on the census (Mainly over in the Chatham area, but I suspect that was were most of the work was). There is even a family in Cuckfield with the Head William Nye who was a Bricklayer master employing 3 men in 1851. But I traced all the children on the census and they all seem to go into the Grocery Business and one became a Piano Maker. And there was no John.
I've no idea how to look for illegitamate children. There is a servant in the house called Hannah Ede (She is miss listed on Ancestory transcripts as Hannah Nye), perhaps i could start with her?
There is a strange family connection to Wales in that one of John Henry's children called Arthur Willian had something of a checked history including getting court martialled in the Navy for thumping his officer and then he lied on the draft papers and joined up to serve in the army in WW1. But sometime between getting out of Navy prison (He did 2years hard labour) and joining up he managed to father an illegitamate child in birth registered in 1912 in Bridgend Glamorgan. I wondered when I found that what he was doing down their and why wasn't he in Liverpool with the rest of the family. Perhaps this is a clue.
But that in itself is interesting coz the Nye name is Kent and Sussex and a lots of the Nyes are listed as Bricklayers and Bricksetters on the census (Mainly over in the Chatham area, but I suspect that was were most of the work was). There is even a family in Cuckfield with the Head William Nye who was a Bricklayer master employing 3 men in 1851. But I traced all the children on the census and they all seem to go into the Grocery Business and one became a Piano Maker. And there was no John.
I've no idea how to look for illegitamate children. There is a servant in the house called Hannah Ede (She is miss listed on Ancestory transcripts as Hannah Nye), perhaps i could start with her?
There is a strange family connection to Wales in that one of John Henry's children called Arthur Willian had something of a checked history including getting court martialled in the Navy for thumping his officer and then he lied on the draft papers and joined up to serve in the army in WW1. But sometime between getting out of Navy prison (He did 2years hard labour) and joining up he managed to father an illegitamate child in birth registered in 1912 in Bridgend Glamorgan. I wondered when I found that what he was doing down their and why wasn't he in Liverpool with the rest of the family. Perhaps this is a clue.
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Friday 31 August 07 10:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks. Working one your own means that little stuff gets out of perspective unless you get to talk it over with someone.
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Friday 31 August 07 08:38 BST (UK) »
Using the wider date range for John Nye I have come up with a possible result but not in Cuckfield. I've found a John Neigh born 1848 in Wales with a dad George Neigh who is a Mason on the 1851 Wales census. Do you think this is a possible or am I clutching at straws?
Also there is a George Henry Nye born in Wales in 1854 registered Cardiff. Goes from famine to feast.
Also there is a George Henry Nye born in Wales in 1854 registered Cardiff. Goes from famine to feast.
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Tuesday 28 August 07 17:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrea,
I'm fairly sure that the H is for Henry as his eldest son was John Henry Nye.
On the Marriage cert he is down as just John Nye.
I have looked at all the possible Nye familys in Kent and Sussex in 1861 for a father John and Son John combination with out success. But there is a death of a John Nye in Cuckfield in 1853 (I think) so I wondered if his dad died and his mother remarried before the 1861 census.
I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the £ on possible birth cert and death certs to sort this out.
I don't know if the online parish clerk only checked the parish church records. But thinking about it John Nye and Eliza Wright were married in a Weslyian Methodist Chapel in Cheshire, so he would be more likely to be on the methodist church register. That might be the place to look. Do you know if that would be on line or would I need to go to the west sussex record office?
Thank you for all the leads I will write them out and check them all out in a systematic fashion, instead of snarling every time my family ask how I'm doing with John Nye. LOL
I'm fairly sure that the H is for Henry as his eldest son was John Henry Nye.
On the Marriage cert he is down as just John Nye.
I have looked at all the possible Nye familys in Kent and Sussex in 1861 for a father John and Son John combination with out success. But there is a death of a John Nye in Cuckfield in 1853 (I think) so I wondered if his dad died and his mother remarried before the 1861 census.
I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the £ on possible birth cert and death certs to sort this out.
I don't know if the online parish clerk only checked the parish church records. But thinking about it John Nye and Eliza Wright were married in a Weslyian Methodist Chapel in Cheshire, so he would be more likely to be on the methodist church register. That might be the place to look. Do you know if that would be on line or would I need to go to the west sussex record office?
Thank you for all the leads I will write them out and check them all out in a systematic fashion, instead of snarling every time my family ask how I'm doing with John Nye. LOL
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Sussex / Re: Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Tuesday 28 August 07 10:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lizdb.
I don't think I'd discounted either of these John Nye's just had sort of thought that since he was always so reliable about his age over 40 years that it might be right. But i take your point and and am off to investigate the web site you memtioned. Uptill now I've only used the Ancestry co uk birth search and the index lists but with these perhaps I have been working in to small a range of dates.
Thank you I've been going round in circles looking for John Nye's on the census with Stonemason/Bricklayer fathers and getting no where.
I don't think I'd discounted either of these John Nye's just had sort of thought that since he was always so reliable about his age over 40 years that it might be right. But i take your point and and am off to investigate the web site you memtioned. Uptill now I've only used the Ancestry co uk birth search and the index lists but with these perhaps I have been working in to small a range of dates.
Thank you I've been going round in circles looking for John Nye's on the census with Stonemason/Bricklayer fathers and getting no where.
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Sussex / Where to look next for John Nye?
« on: Monday 27 August 07 20:49 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm very new on here and offer my apologies if I've got this on the wrong board. Please be gentle with me and point me in the right direction.
I am looking for some advice on how to proceed. My Gt Grandfather was John Nye and I have found him on a number of Census' In 1871 he is in Herefordshire as a farm servant and he says he is born in Cuckfield Sussex, the next time in 1881 he was now in Whitchurch Shropshire and says her was born in Herefordshire, and he says the same again in 1891 still living in Shropshire. But by 1901 he is in Liverpool and on that census he says he was born in Cuckfield Sussex again.
I am convinced it is the same man as he gets married in Shrophire and he and his wife have about 16 children and they link up throughout the later census'
What I'm trying to find is his birth registration according to his age on all the census' he would have been born in 1853 or 1854. But I can't find him on the 1861 census nor in the indexes of births. I have checked with the parish clerk for Cuckfield and and there is no John Nye in that period.
On his marriage cert it says his father was also John Nye a stonemason. I know that Nye is a Kent and Sussex name coz as a child my parents moved from Liverpool to Kent. How surprised were we to discover that there were lots of Nye's, in Liverpool we were related to almost all the Nye's in the city! Dad says that there was a family story that his Grandfather came from "Down South" but I just don't know how ro proceed now the obvious channels coming up blank.
I would go to the record office but I don't even know what to ask for to look at.
Any suggestions gratefully recieved.
I am looking for some advice on how to proceed. My Gt Grandfather was John Nye and I have found him on a number of Census' In 1871 he is in Herefordshire as a farm servant and he says he is born in Cuckfield Sussex, the next time in 1881 he was now in Whitchurch Shropshire and says her was born in Herefordshire, and he says the same again in 1891 still living in Shropshire. But by 1901 he is in Liverpool and on that census he says he was born in Cuckfield Sussex again.
I am convinced it is the same man as he gets married in Shrophire and he and his wife have about 16 children and they link up throughout the later census'
What I'm trying to find is his birth registration according to his age on all the census' he would have been born in 1853 or 1854. But I can't find him on the 1861 census nor in the indexes of births. I have checked with the parish clerk for Cuckfield and and there is no John Nye in that period.
On his marriage cert it says his father was also John Nye a stonemason. I know that Nye is a Kent and Sussex name coz as a child my parents moved from Liverpool to Kent. How surprised were we to discover that there were lots of Nye's, in Liverpool we were related to almost all the Nye's in the city! Dad says that there was a family story that his Grandfather came from "Down South" but I just don't know how ro proceed now the obvious channels coming up blank.
I would go to the record office but I don't even know what to ask for to look at.
Any suggestions gratefully recieved.
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