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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Saturday 18 August 07 02:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all that geographical info. Someone once told me that if I started looking at the family tree I would end up learning things about places and occupations and ways of life in bygone days. Looks like that is going to be the case. Interesting stuff. Good to se all the place names are relatively close to each other too. Much appreciated. Things are slowly becoming clearer. Cheers, Gary :D

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Friday 17 August 07 09:49 BST (UK)  »
Cool, thanks for that. I can see I am going to get my maps of Lancashire out and see what town is close to which town and where and when. :D

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Friday 17 August 07 07:20 BST (UK)  »
 ::)One last question if any of you king people can help. I can't find it for trying. Any idea what address Joseph Martland and his wife Jane lived at in the 1841 census. Here's hoping. Cheers, Gary

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Midlothian / Re: William Brown Birth 1803
« on: Monday 13 August 07 18:57 BST (UK)  »
  :)Thanks for those suggestions. Much appreciated. It gives me something to go on with. Cheers, gary

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 22:55 BST (UK)  »
 :D Brilliant deductions. Sounds good to me and it all seems to fit. Unless I hear anything to the contrary I think you are onto something indeed. Amazing work. Long held problems and sticking points have vanished just like that. Thank you very much indeed. Cheers, Gary

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Midlothian / William Brown Birth 1803
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 22:25 BST (UK)  »
Kia ora from New Zealand,

I am trying to find a birth listing for William Brown (Possibly Browne). He was born about 1803: His marriage was on 15th July 1839 in Cannongate, Edinburgh, Midlothian to Isabella Stage, daughter of John Stage. His marriage banns on 12th July 1839 show he was a Lance Sergeant in the First or Royal Regiment of Foot quatered in Edinburgh castle at the time. His age at marriage would make his birthdate around 1803.

Have a geeat day,
Gary

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 21:03 BST (UK)  »
Oh yes, Some details of Joseph's children: Collated from Census records:
Joseph Markland married Jane Robertson:
Children were Thomas Markland about 1844, James Markland about 1846, Edward Markland about 1851, and Henry Markland 25th April 1853:
Jane his wife must have died after the birth of Henry.
Joseph then married Elizabeth Richardson on 21st April 1854 in Cathedral Manchester, Lancashire. They had one son Robert Markland christened 27 July 1856 in Coppul. After Robert was born Joseph died and Elizabeth married a William Robinson. Elizabeth was a Banks widow with two Banks children when she married Joseph.

Complicated hey?




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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 20:51 BST (UK)  »
Wow!, Thanks for all that effort on my behalf! Much appreciated. Let's see if I can give a bit more information to go on:

Joseph Markland had a son Henry Markland.
I have Henry's marriage certificate: Married to Mary Elizabeth Collinson on 25th October 1873 in Saint George's Church in the Parish of Chorley. His father Joseph is shown as an Engineer. Henry was twenty at the time so Jospeh was married before 1853. And we know his name was Joseph MARKLAND. Now a complicated bit.  A probable surname miss-spelling in the records:

When looking for Henry Markland's birth certificate I found no Henry Markland born around 1853 in Chorley. However, there was a Henry Markley born on 25th April 1853 in Chorley. That Henry's father was a Joseph Markley: I suspect that Joseph Markley and Joseph Markland are the same person. There are dozens of Marklands listed in the Vital records for Chorley in the 1800's, however, there are only two Markley's recorded. One is Joseph Markley and the other is his son Henry Markley. The birthdate of 25 April 1853 for Henry Markley corresponds to the birthdate of Henry Markland calculated from  later certficates in my posession. Joseph Markley's occupation is given as Engineer on Henry Markley's birth certificate, and later certificates tell us that Joseph Markland was also an Engineer. Though I have no evidence, I feel that joseph Markley and Henry Markley are none other than Joseph Markland and Henry Markland.  That Henry's birth certificate gives the mother as Jane Robinson.

In summary: His name may be Joseph Markland or Joseph Markley. He married Jane Robinson. He was an engineer in Chorley in 1853.

The only Jane Robinson marriage I can find that is close is to a Joseph Martland, but, as noted by a researcher here, the names of the children do not match so possibly not our Joseph.

Thanks for all your efforts.
Isn't genealogy fun?



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Lancashire Lookup Requests / 1841 Census: Chorley: Joseph Markland
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 09:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi there, I have an ancestor Joseph Markland who married Jane Robinson. Their Children were Thomas, James, Edward and Henry. I am trying to find the birthdate of Joseph if possible. A complications is that the surname may have changed around 1850 from Martland to Markland. Cheers, gary

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