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This development, having all of the records, really locked it down.  The Mount Stewart thing with his mother was very final for our Patrick.

I spent some time looking for him, and his possible death.  I drew a blank, even going to San Francisco where his brother Thomas was located (and doing well, I would say).  But no Patrick around then.  At least in the public records.

That puts us back to the reasoning of why Michael McCarroll was a resident of this area. 

Beragh and Curr is near Greenmont.  That Bed n' Breakfast was equally away from Eskragh and Corkhill to Fintona.  It was a very nice area when I was staying at Greenmont.

Thank you dathai, confirmation is a great thing! 

   We have the marriage license of Michael Joseph McCarroll and Agnes Bridget Gaffigan.  It was issued in Dundalk County Louth, 29 July 1912.

  We seem to believe (because there are various degrees a assurance, like manifests) that the two did not travel together, that Mickey was in Ireland at the time that Agnes came over and landed in  County Cork.

   We have as an address that Micky was living at that time in Beragh when they married.

   We have them at Georges Street in Omagh soon after (or maybe not so soon) because my father was born two years later at that address.

And we have them domiciled in Fintona, County Tyrone, where they had a public house, shoe store under the stairs, a horse auctioneer, and a cabinet maker (who made caskets).  They lived upstairs and stayed there until Michael J. McCarroll passed away in 1924.

What we seem to be missing  is the time between staying in Beragh and going to Omagh.  We have his nephew Charles working or owning a public house on the main street in downtown Omagh.  Had Michael owned a public house in Omagh, which he sold to take up one in Fintona?  He had the cash from San Francisco to be able to purchase a public house but we have no actual knowledge of that.  It would make some sense for him to want to be near his mother in the Fintona area, especially since Michael had arrived.  But we are speculating. 

Datha got our juices rising, but we still have a brick wall to over come.

Patrick Coady passed away at age 55 on October 22, 1959 at the hospital in Ringshead, County of Dublin.  At the time of his death he had given up his employment with the railway and was listed as a shopkeeper in Irishtown.  B. O’Leary was in attendance at his demise.
 
Without the actual birth date, one must rely upon doing the arduous task of going through the births that took place in a time period without the knowledge of the Mother’s maiden name.  And if one has never visited Dublin, and even then it can be a chore, it would be difficult to distinguish Irishtown and Rigshead.

Thanks scotmum - jjc

scotmum -

  Your pick-up of the sale of the property brought forth the fond memories I had when discussing general things with Kitty. "A Coadys Convenience Store , 8 and 10 Bath Street, was for sale in 1996..." said some things about the property that I had forgotten about.  This was a two story building and the upstairs was for the family (well, a daughter Mary was the only one still there). But I did not know that the convenience store was more than a grocers, from which Mary would go to the place long gone to shop.  I remember going with her and seeing all of those little, and big, carts from which many items were for sale. 

And the other, which I think was for women to have their hair done, was an actual part of the property.

Your attention to these details, like the addresses, will make it more likely we can proceed without guessing.

Thank you for the remembrances they have brought . Hopefully we can now backtrack, and unravel this one that I had so many fine moments in the past.

JJC

aghadowey -

I sometimes have a bit of a problem with your posts, as in this one.  Your response seems to be a bit out of the air. "Clearly in this you are, as in other instances, mistaken."  While you may address all of my mistakes, and I appreciate your vast knowledge of genealogy, where am I clearly mistaken in not addressing your ability "...to find births and other more recent details for Catherine Coady's children." 

I stated, and will restate my "mistake" again, "I did say that some had passed away and a few were still using their walkers, or canes like myself, and that these souls were in retirement or a still practicing solicitor - but no details that would identify them." If it upsets you that someone should address your comments about posting details about persons that are not in their graves, at least don't tie your comment to something that was not addressed.

I have attempted to address Catherine's marriage (as I did with Ellen) and could not find where it took place.  Like Ellen's, there was no clue given that it might have been something to do with manifests - or even in another County.  Without that start, I could not address the living - as was the problem some ten years ago when a Coady went on this board and for the first time had his hands slapped when told he could not address "details."

Your ad hominem comment regarding my research abilities does not need a response.  But, recall - when we do address some of the problems that we have had in researching our ancestors it must be remembered that we do not have your vast (and that is not meant as a put-down) knowledge.

While I may not be new to this board, this is not something that I am clearly knowledgeable.  When I started looking at Kitty, there was a start with looking for her marriage.  And without having her husband's name, and where he came from, wandering around the National Archives was not a waste of my time (in that some things can be eliminated) but very frustrating. 

Actually, because I could not seek details from the living relatives, I had to rely upon others on this board like scotmum to tell me that it was Patrick J.  Now that does open up other avenues of research.

jjc