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In the IGI, I found several baptism entries from Marylebone (1773, 1774, 1779) where the children's father was entered as JNO Cooper, and his wife als ELIZTH. This looks to me like a lazy registrar; but what name could he have abbreviated as JNO? He did it at least three times. Google returns quite a few JNO as well, it seems to be a common thing, but as a German I cannot imagine what it meant.

I do hope the question is not too daft 

Cardamom

Hi everybody,

we are just back from England where we had a delightful holiday including a visit to the church of St. Mary on Paddington Green as well as Westminster City Archives (where the parish records of said church are held.)

In that church there is a gravestone in the wall next to the altar, reading as follows:

BENEATH
ARE DEPOSITED THE REMAINS
OF LADY CATHERINE GRAHAM
WIDOW OF SIR JAMES GRAHAM BART.
OF NETHERBY IN THE COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND
BORN 10. MARCH 1765 DIED 20. SEPTEMBER 1836
AGED 71
IN LIFE AND IN DEATH HER HOPES WERE FIXED BEYOND THE GRAVE
AND LOOKING UNTO JESUS
SHE SOUGHT THAT CROWN OF GLORY
WHICH THE LORD THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE
SHALL GIVE ON THAT DAY TO ALL THEM
WHO LOVE HIS APPEARING.

The burial is registered (Burials Parish of Paddington, Middlesex) as follows:

"The Right Hon. Lady Catherine, widow of Sir James Bart. of Netherby,
in the County of Cumberland
Abode: Bryanston Square, St. Marylebone,
Sept. 26th, 1836, aged 71"

Might be of interest to somebody.
(For myself, I found the monument for Capt. William Graham and his burial entry, too).

Elisabeth, from Germany

Hi Hutchin,

Thank you very much. I received and transcribed a download of Capt. Wm. Graham's will last night 

I don't think we are cousins, because William Graham was not my ancestor, so neither was Robert or Frances. The story is a bit more complicated. William Graham was married to Lavinia Sally Ann (née Harffy) whom I have been trying to trace for years now. After his death she married Lt. Robert Cooper of the Royal Engineers who died in Quebec, Canada, in Jan. 1799. Their daughter Catherine Johanna Louisa Cooper was baptized in Arthuret, September 1799. In 1811 Lavinia Sally Ann married Francis Dubourdieu, also of the RE, and went with her third husband and her daughter to Germany (Stade, Hanover) where her daughter married a Hanoverian officer of old nobility and thus became my ancestor. Lavinia Sally Ann died in 1853 in Germany, aged 80, 2 years after her daughter.

This Lady has always been very mysterious ... having had three husbands, three christian names, but no maiden name, no parents ... When I began researching, she was known by the name of Dubourdieu; Rumour had it that she was a "Lady Graham"; her second husband must have been a Mr. Cooper as that was his daughter's name; and that was about all. Only recently I learnt that her will can be found in a German archive; in this her maiden name is mentioned as Harffy. I still haven't seen it as it can not be obtained on the internet. And I still do not know where and when she married Wm. Graham or where she came from.

As the young widow (born about 1772) had her daughter from the 2nd marriage baptized in Arthuret in 1799, I think that 7 years after William's death there were still (probably fairly good) relations between her and her first husband's family, the Graham of Netherby (as only now confirmed through Bridget's help  For this reason I should be really glad if you could have a look at the 1801 will of Frances Graham. Every hint to William, his widow and son will be of great interest. Rev. Robert Graham's will might shed a light on Capt. Wm. Graham's situation, too.  (He must have been really well off. A thousand pounds in case of remarriage looks like an awful lot of money. So does a hundred pounds for mourning.)

Although we may not be cousins, your informations might be interesting for me, too. E-mail me at e_roeder(at)web.de. Of course, I can send you my transcription as well.

On Saturday we are leaving for our holiday in England. Although not Cumbria, this time.

Cheers
Elisabeth

... the one that had brothers, Charles, James, William & Fergus? The children of Robert Graham and his wife Frances Graham, born Wath, Yorkshire, 17th May, 1731?

Hi Bruce, I am interested in her brother William ... I am looking for Capt William Graham of the 65th Regt of Foot whose monument is still standing in the church St. Mary on Paddington Green, London. He died 24 Nov 1792 aged 28 years, leaving his only surviving child, Robert Charles, and his widow, Lavinia Sally Anne. For several reasons I strongly suspect him to be of the Graham of Netherby. His widow is my ancestor Lavinia Sally Ann, née Harffy. Do you have more information about this couple, especially place and date of marriage? They had a daughter Lavinia Frances, born 1791.

Wish you a wonderful time in Cumbria - I went there in 2001 and loved it.

Regards, Elizabeth