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Netti - Yes I do have the marriage certificate for William Morris and Mary Ann Smith. They married at the Parish Church Dudley 4th October 1853, but not sure which church this is. Father's names were Thomas Morris, Labourer and William Smith Labourer. Williams and his sons' occupations further down the line were iron puddlers. It is William's family I am trying to find. According to the later census it worked out that he was born about 1831. Thanks very much Alliheat
Gardener thanks very much for your efforts. I will print this list out and have a look at the possibilities. The 1861 census is my gt grandfathers family, and having looked around the censuses, it looks as though they were a large family with most brothers living and working in the same place. The christian names are the same as were being used within the family until my father's generation. Much appreciated Alliheat