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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Allen of Camus, Glenleary etc- Macoquin, Dunboe, Coleraine
« on: Thursday 20 February 25 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Aghadowey for those letters. Every little detail helps.
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Allen of Camus, Glenleary etc- Macoquin, Dunboe, Coleraine
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Indeed so! Using the same Christian names in different permutations, using different shortened forms, changing names that were registered, not giving father's names,.... And those are just the record keeping glitches
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Allen of Camus, Glenleary etc- Macoquin, Dunboe, Coleraine
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes too many Allens married Allens!
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Allen of Camus, Glenleary etc- Macoquin, Dunboe, Coleraine
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Aghadowey this sounds very plausible. I'll have to get back into the Allens to see if we can pull some or the story together
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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Allen of Camus, Glenleary etc- Macoquin, Dunboe, Coleraine
« on: Wednesday 19 February 25 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello to all Allan researchers! Yes there is still a lot of interest in the Allens though I don't think we have moved on that much. Some people have done DNA and surely that will help. I haven't enough skills in that line but others have
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Antrim / Re: Ramage of north Antrim, probably Finvoy
« on: Thursday 17 October 24 22:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Aghadowey. Those Ramage people would have been neighbours of my maternal ancestors in Dromore. Likely they would have attended those funerals
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Antrim / McCollum of Lisnisk, parish of Loughguile, 1700s
« on: Thursday 17 October 24 14:24 BST (UK) »
I'm not specifically interested in this family but I keep an eye out for 18th century Antrim people. These McCollums I suppose may connect to the gentry/ semi-gentry family of McCollums of Clogher (Bushmills area) and Lemnalary, (Glens). I found a useful deed of 1747concerning widow Esther McCollum of Lisnisk, widow of Archibald McCollum, clerk, parish of Loughguile. It mentions her eldest son Archibald and names her 8 younger children Skeffington,Esther, Allice, Ann, Mary, Jane, Hannah and Leonora; several or all were married by the date of another deed in 1767 between Archibald and James Moore of Ballydivity. This 1767 deed cites another lease of 1738 from the earl of Antrim, concerning the quarterland of Lisnisk and other lands. There are a number of deeds involving these people, vol 277 p. 297 no. 178102 is one of interest, see the grantors list for more. These people may possibly feature in the Dobbs List volume; date and locality would be appropriate. It seems that Archibald McCollum senior may be the same as an Archibald McCollum, an Irish speaking clergyman in Ramoan, who helped Bishop Hutchinson with translations and died in 1736. See Clergy of Connor, which gives his antecedents
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Antrim / Re: Ramage of north Antrim, probably Finvoy
« on: Thursday 17 October 24 13:23 BST (UK) »
I was inspired to look again at Ramages, and came up with some interesting bits from the Registry of Deeds, which might particularly interest Shanreagh and possibly Wyanga. I was looking for the Mrs Ramage of Cloughyole who was leasing Cornark near Clough in 1804. I don't think I found her but I did find a Jane Ramage, widow, (who conceivably could be but possibly is not the same widow Ramage?) from Petershill in Belfast, widow, who in 1804 leased property to John Halliday of Belfast. What is of interest is that the deed was witnessed by Isaac Ramage Warren, bookseller. In another lease same year Isaac Ramage Warren was granted all her property and debts, then said to be a stationer. Isaac Ramage may not be your direct ancestor, Shanreagh,I don't think you mention his dates. Presumably this Isaac Ramage Warren was actually a son of Mrs Ramage?? who had taken the name Warren for some reason? Maybe Mrs Ramage was Warren and inherited property from her family. Middle names not at all usual at that date, they mean something when you find them. And for Wyanga and me , the name Warren is of interest; both his Taylors and Finvoy Taylors use that as a Chritsian name for some reason or reasons. I can't see how this all ties in, and it is most likely just coincidence. But interesting
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Antrim / Re: Ramage of north Antrim, probably Finvoy
« on: Tuesday 15 October 24 12:38 BST (UK) »
In reply to Shanreagh; I have come back to thinking about Ramages again because of the recent post about the Taylor of Cornark and the marriage to McAllister of the Aird. Cornark is near Clough, when I looked up the British Newspapers Index there is an interesting reference to Cornark in 1804. Cornark which is now a subdenomination, following the Ordnance Survey mapping, seems then to have been regarded as a full td, and was owned by a Mrs Ramage of Cloughyole. Cloughyole is in Clondermot, north county Londonderry, so of interest to Shanreagh?. SO how come a widow (presumably) in Clondermot owned land in north Antrim? I think she might have been too old, surely, to be the Sarah Stewart from a county Antrim prominent semi-gentry?? family, though that might explain her inheritance in Antrim if she was an heiress or was selling her dowry estate. Anyway Sarah Stewart married Alexander Ramage in probably the mid 18th century, because Sarah Stewart and Alexander Ramage had a daughter Mary who married Robert Taylor well before 1796; there were adult Taylor children in 1796 and the Stewart Ramage couple had known grandchildren. So, Shanreagh and anyone, was there an Alexander Ramage in Cloughyole, or can I keep on hoping that Robert Taylor and the Ramages are those that I know about in Finvoy? Or does the Stewart- Ramage - Taylor connection have any relevance to why William Taylor was in Cornark, not so very far from Finvoy? Coincidences and questions!