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The Common Room / Re: poorhouse terminology
« on: Saturday 07 July 07 12:13 BST (UK)  »
Interesting one Northern Rose . . . . the info I require dates from 1910 so I'm still three years short. If the info was absolutely, utterly essential it would be an interesting route to go down but this was more of a general query why a prison warder should point someone in the direction of the poorhouse as 'informant'.
Going off on a slight tangent, I noticed on recent visit to Lincoln Archives that some of the data was still closed, even though 100 year rule no longer applied (for example info from 1902,03 etc). However, because that info was contained in a ledger that also had sensitive data up to the 1920s, it remained closed, presumably until the 2020s. Interesting logistic . . . could you still get access to 1902/03 info because the data is no longer subject to the 100-year rule, even though the same document would include info that is still closed? Would the archivist give you access but sit on your shoulder to ensure you only looked at info up to and including 1906/07? 

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The Common Room / Re: poorhouse terminology
« on: Saturday 07 July 07 11:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bearkat

I had a look through the local paper court reports for a few months before he went into poorhouse, but without much joy. My guess is that it was probably a minor misdemeanour which may not even have made the press . . . I'll try court records but just interested to see if anyone had experience of this terminology in their own research and what conclusions they had drawn from it.

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The Common Room / poorhouse terminology
« on: Saturday 07 July 07 08:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi guys

I'm puzzled with a workhouse entry on a historical figure I'm currently researching and wonder if anyone could help.
He spent some time(s) in the Lincoln workhouse at the turn of the 20th century, along with his wife, and for the most part they admitted themselves ('Name of Informant: self' according to creed register entries).
However, on one occasion the 'Name of informant' was given as 'prison warder'. Am I correct to assume that he had spent some time 'inside' and, on his due release date from jail, was pointed in the direction of the workhouse? I've tried to research prison records but unfortunately few have survived from that time and, of those that are still available, Lincoln Archives say they are still subject to the 100-year rule and so I can't get a look at them.
Any help gratefully received!

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Perthshire / Re: Rangers FC Callander research
« on: Friday 22 June 07 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Elspcam

Great picture and although I will try to verify the next time I'm in Stirling library, I'm almost absolutely convinced there is no connection between the MacBeth Trophy and the M(a)cBe(a)th of Rangers fame.
The family moved to Glasgow soon after the death of the father, Peter McBeath, in 1864 (apols, not 1865 as stated above) and the Callander connection came to an end.
It's understood William later moved to England (approx 1880) and did not return to Scotland to live.
Thanks for taking the time to post - again, all info gratefully received.

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / MacBeth-Knee-Rivers
« on: Monday 18 June 07 22:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

I'm looking for any help in tracing descendants of an Isabella MacBeth, who married either Alfred Thomas Knee or William Rivers in the September quarter 1907 at St George Hanover Square, London.

Isabella may have been the daughter of one of the founding fathers of Rangers Football Club (four young lads formed the club back in 1872) and I'm trying to track down any known relatives for a research project in which I'm currently involved.

Many thanks in advance - from past experience I know if anyone can, rootschat can!


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Perthshire / Rangers FC Callander research
« on: Friday 08 June 07 10:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone

I'm looking for anyone with a connection to a Peter McBeath and Jane (Duncanson) McBeath, who lived and raised a family in Callander in the 1840-1860 period.
Peter was a general merchant/grocer of Main Street and he died in 1865. Wife Jane died in Glasgow in 1872.
One of their sons, William (Duncanson) McBeath (later known as MacBeth) was one of the four founders of Rangers FC.
I'm trying to trace anyone who may know a little more about the family from their time in Callander and, fingers tightly crossed (!) any present day connections there may be with the M(a)cBe(a)ths.
Many thanks in advance!

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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincoln woman needed to make man happy!
« on: Friday 01 June 07 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Now come on Geoff, play fair I feel like a kid who is just learning to count with his fingers has been planted in the middle of a discussion with Albert Einstein on applied mathematics!

You lost me on the "coincidence - I don't think so" line!

Can you explain it to me like the dork I am and stop the guys in the office wondering why I've been scratching my head for the last 10 minutes and gazing into the middle distance every in a study of concentrated angst!   ;D

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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincoln woman needed to make man happy!
« on: Friday 01 June 07 14:10 BST (UK)  »
Confusing, isn't it?!

So far, I am taking from the information that Sarah Ann and Adelaide were probably half-sisters (same mother, different fathers) because Adelaide's surname was Lucas when she married in 1876 (the same name as the mother's first husband, John Lucas).

Isn't it intriguing that Adelaide married an Adolph(e) (Townsend) in 1876 - the same name as her younger (half) brother.

Is that a fair an accurate assessment of previous posts?

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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincoln woman needed to make man happy!
« on: Friday 01 June 07 13:18 BST (UK)  »
Magic, thanks Geoff!

So, in effect, Sarah Ann's 'maiden' name appears to be Lucas? However, I don't understand the frown next to Adelaide's name? Are you unhappy with her age in 1901, which is given as 47? It seems to fit with Sarah - she was listed as aged 48 in 1901 census and while there are various discrepancies with her birth and year of birth, they are all within five/six years of each other.

I'll try to trace death reference for Sarah Ann Lucas around the 1915-25 period. I have a sad feeling she wouldn't have lived much longer . . . .

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