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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Marriage British Columbia
« on: Friday 07 February 20 15:31 GMT (UK)  »
Eva Inez Findlay (then named Eva Taylor) married Oscar Leonard Bustad (indexed at Ancestry as Oscar Bustan) on 3 Jun 1938 at Spokane, Washington. They were divorced on 16 Feb 1943 at Coos, Oregon (ref Marshfeld Oregon newspaper).
Do you have a death date for Eva?

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Findlay b.1804, New Machar, Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 22 March 17 15:35 GMT (UK)  »
I have seen the Foveran parish register on microfilm, and it appears they were married there:

Marriages
1826
August 20 James Findlay Newmachar and Margaret Ruxton were married.

Why the marriage was also recorded a week later at Newmachar I can't say, but I have seen this more than once in Scotland, i.e. a marriage recorded at both the bride's and the groom's parish, so perhaps it was a custom to in some way celebrate the marriage a second time at the groom's parish.

Peter

PS Another bit of (circumstantial) evidence re the parents of my James Findlay. Anne Findlay, born 1800 at Upper Rannieshill, i.e. a sister of your Robert, married Robert Connon of Udny. Their son Thomas Connon, born 14 Sep 1832 at Udny, came in 1853 to the same village (Elora) in Ontario where my James Findlay and his family had settled in 1836. A son of this Thomas Connon, John Robert Connon, wrote a book about the history of Elora and in it mentions the family of James Findlay in quite a bit of detail, as if (so I hope!) he was related:

The Early History of Elora and Vicinity, by John Connon, p.92:

About this time a young man came on the scene who was to play a conspicuous part in the community. This was Mr. George Barron, whose native place was Savoch i'Deer in Aberdeenshire, Coming to Canada, several years before this, he had worked in the vicinity of Whitby. There he heard of the Bon accord colony, and came up to investigate. He returned some time later, and, about Christmas, 1835, married Miss Elspet Watt, who had, up to this time, kept house for her brother. This was the first marriage in the settlement.  A few days later. Mr. Watt set out on a visit to Scotland, leaving the newly-married couple to look after his house until his return. Having married in Scotland, Mr. Watt again sailed from Aberdeen on the 16th of April, on the ship 'Pacific, and arrived at Elora on the 10th of June, 1836. In this, the fifth party there was, besides Mr. and Mrs. Watt, James Findlay, who was born in the Parish of New Machar Oct 5th, 1804, and his wife, Margaret Ruxton, from the Parish of Foveran. Their four eldest children were born in Scotland, their family being : Agnes, Mrs. George Smith, living in Brantford ; William is the well known auctioneer and resident of Salem ; John is in Victoria, B. C. ; David, lived for many years in Salem, died in Windsor ; James is in Shoal Lake, Manitoba ; Alexander died in Toronto ; Robert is in Sudbury, and Charles in Shoal Lake Manitoba.

("Agnes, Mrs George Smith" is my great grandmother)

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: James Findlay b.1804, New Machar, Aberdeenshire
« on: Wednesday 22 March 17 06:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Sorry, I was not paying attention to what I wrote! I should have written that my James was (I believe) a brother of the Robert Findlay (1792-) who married Helen Marshall. I have the parents of this Robert Findlay as James Findlay and Christian Mutch, and that this James Findlay was buried in 1824:

1824 New Machar Deaths & Burials
June 10th, James Findlay, Farmer Upper Rannieshill, an elder of this parish, aged sixty-seven years, was interred in the Chappel of Moniekebbuck-Burying ground.

This farm (Upper Rannieshill) is a short distance (c. 2 km) from the farm of Edgehill in Foveran where my gggm Margaret Ruxton was born, i.e. they could easily have met.

The only written evidence I have is that on his death record was written that he was born 1804 at New Machar.

Peter Smith

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Thanks for posting this. I added the data for your brother-in-law's grandparents to my tree.
Peter Smith
(I believe, but am not certain, that a gggf James Findlay, who came to Canada in 1836, was a brother of Robert Findlay (1835-1898))

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Also new for this family, learned from the same source as the information about the family of Ann Findlay, was the burial of her father James Findlay from 1824:

1824 New Machar Deaths & Burials
June 10th, James Findlay, Farmer Upper Rannieshill, an elder of this parish, aged sixty-seven years, was interred in the Chappel of Moniekebbuck-Burying ground.

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Hi Teresa,
Great to hear from you. I will update my database with your new family info.
I have learned something (from a Genes Reunited member) which helps me be more confident in adding my James as the last child of James and Christian Findlay, even though I could find no evidence such as a christening, to confirm it.

Isobel, their 4th child (1795-) married James Sangster of Old Machar on 30 Oct 1819.
If you look at Freecen you can see James and Isobel Sangster and six children living at Old Machar in 1841:
    SANGSTER   James   M   55   Farmer    Aberdeenshire        
    SANGSTER   Isobel   F   35       Aberdeenshire        
...

Ann, their 6th child (1800-1843) married Robert Connon (1795 Udny, Aberdeenshire to 1873 Fetteresso, Kincardineshire) on 12 Dec 1824.
They lived at Udny and as far as I can tell 9 had children.
If you look at Freecen you can see Robert and Ann Connon and a large family living at Udny, Tillyeve in 1841:
  CONNON Robert M 45 Farmer  Aberdeenshire     
  CONNON Ann F 40   Aberdeenshire
...
What however was most interesting is that their fourth child, Thomas Connon b.1832, came to Canada at some point after 1841, where he settled at Elora, Ontario, the very same village where James and Margaret Findlay settled in 1836. He married Jane Keith on 4 Nov 1854 at Elora. Her father John was originally a close neighbour of James and family when they lived at concession 11, lot 17, just outside of Elora. He was a photographer. As well, their eldest son, John Robert Connon, wrote a book in 1930 about the town of Elora - The early History of Elora and Vicinity. In the book (as well as a passage about my own gggf James Smith of Aberdeen) he talks in some detail about James Findlay:

In this, the fifth party there was, besides Mr. and Mrs. Watt, James Findlay, who was born in the Parish of New Machar Oct 5th, 1804, and his wife, Margaret Ruxton, from the Parish of Foveran. Their four eldest children were born in Scotland, their family being : Agnes, Mrs. George Smith, living in Brantford ; William is the well known auctioneer and resident of Salem ; John is in Victoria, B. C. ; David, lived for many years in Salem, died in Windsor ; James is in Shoal Lake, Manitoba ; Alexander died in Toronto ; Robert is in Sudbury, and Charles in Shoal Lake Manitoba.  

This level of detail does not prove that John Robert Connon was related to James and family, but I think adds to the odds that he was.

Peter

PS "Agnes, Mrs. George Smith" is my great grandmother.
 

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Somerset / Re: East Pennard Marriage MULLINS
« on: Monday 19 December 11 21:06 GMT (UK)  »
I do have quite a bit on their daughter Jane Cary who married William Lovell on 30 Apr 1826. I have looked a bit further for some of their children and would appreciate it if you could have a quick look at the attached tree as the names of her grandchildren are mainly taken from my guesses based on census returns.

Below are my collected notes for Jane Cary (note the Anna Phillis Morris, a servant with Jane and her husband in 1861, is a daughter of my 3x great grandfather Henry Morris. Henry's wife Phillis Vincent was Jane Cary's first cousin).

Peter

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She ("Jane wife of William Lovell") received in 1836 a bequest of £150 from her uncle Stephen Vincent.

The 19 Aug 1837 will of her father made the following bequest:
I give my three Closes of pasture Land situated at Honey Stratton in the parish of Evercreech in the said County called Bullhams containing by estimation eleven acres and my close of pasture Land called Sidbury in the parish of Doulting in the said County or by whatever other name or names the said Closes or either of them have or hath heretofore been called or known unto and to the use of my Daughters Elizabeth the wife of John French and Jane the wife of William Lovell and their respective heirs and assigns share and share alike as Tenants in Common and not as Joint Tenants.
And I also give and bequeath unto each of them my said Daughters the sum of One hundred pounds

In 10 Jan 1839 in a Codicil to William's will the above bequests were revoked and replaced by:
And I do hereby give and devise the Close of Ground call'd Upper or Higher Bullhams containing by admeasurement four acres and my Close of Ground call'd Sidbury adjoining thereto unto my Son Edmund Cary and my Son in Law John Golledge ... to let the same ... and pay the Rent thereof from time to time ... into the proper hands of my said daughter Jane the wife of William Lovell for her own use ... And after her decease In trust to sell the same ... and divide the proceeds between all the children of my said Daughter Jane
And I give and bequeath unto my said Trustees and the Survivor of them and the heirs of such Survivor the Sum of One hundred pounds Upon trust to pay the Interest thereof into the hands of my said Daughter Jane for her own use during her natural life and after her decease to pay and apply the same and the Interest thereof Upon the same trusts and in the same manner as is directed with regard to my said Lands hereinbefore devised.
And I hereby declare and direct that the before mentioned devise and bequest shall be free from the debts and control of the husband of my said Daughter
(this must have been triggered by a falling out between William Cary and his son-in-law William Lovell)

In 1841 living at Week, Glastonbury, Somerset, age 32, with her husband William Lovall 35, Yeoman, children William 10, Ann 8, Samuel 4, John Cary 1, and two servants.

In 1851 living at 36 Tarringdon, St. Sepulchre, London, age 45, with her husband William Lovell 46, Tobacconist & Provision Agent, children Mary 23, Samuel 14, John 10 and Phillis 3, and a servant.

In 1861 living at 66 Snow Hill, St. Sepulchre, London, age 55, with her husband William Lovell 57, Cheese Factor, their children Samuel 24, John C. 20, Phillis C. 13, married daughter Ann Coles 28, granddaughter Jane C. Coles 2 and a servant Anna Phillis Morris 29.  Anna Phillis Morris is her first cousin, one time removed.

In 1871 living at St. Mary, Lambeth, a widow, age 65, Annuitant, with her daughter Ann Coles 37, and grand daughter Jane C. Coles 12.

In 1881 living at Green Hall, York Rd, Lambeth, Surrey, (says unmarried, but presumably widowed) age 75, with her son-in-law Josiah Christmas 55, Provision Merchant, daughter Mary C. 53, seven grandchildren, a clerk, and four servants.

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Lancashire / Re: Bermingham Dining Room Great George Place Liverpool
« on: Sunday 15 May 11 11:28 BST (UK)  »
Thanks very much for your quick replies - all of the records you have found are part of the puzzle. What I would like to find more about are two things:
 - William Edmund Greenwood, wife Linda May and son Eric Darling left Liverpool in 1901 for the US. On the passenger list is noted "returning home" - the 1901 census has a note that William E. was a US citizen, but I have no idea how or why. His son, Eric appears to have died there, and his son William was born there, possibly in New Jersey.
 - The second question is what happened to this family after 1911 - did William E. settle down as a dining room proprietor?

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Lancashire / Re: Bermingham Dining Room Great George Place Liverpool
« on: Sunday 15 May 11 09:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Cal,
I am sorry but I can't help you with your request, but would appreciate it very much if you could answer a question.
I am looking for information about William Edmund Greenwood and his wife Linda May Blythe (William's father Thomas was a brother of one of my great grandmothers)
Peter Smith

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