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Thank you to both Carolyn and George. 
The toned down background will be less busy and distracting for the family album.  Thank you.

I need an ID photo (not for a passport) and  I hope that George's work will be acceptable to the organisation.. 
It's very acceptable to me..
Thanks once again..Perfect both works..
Gay

Thanks for the new options...and I had seen Ruth, and kept her in the back of my mind..but Pritchard is a new thought,

I am doing this for my brother in law..His grandparents were  John Williams and Mary Power..(dau of Edward Power) mrd 1893

In 1901 They are in 108 Pothkerry Rd, Barry, Glamorgan..children Edward 5; Constance 4; May 2; and Wilfred 5 months.
Also in 1901 his mother Margaret is at 37 Harbour Rd, Barry, Glamorgan.
(Henry T, grandson may be the child of one of her daughters, Ann or Caroline)
In 1911, Constance is having a sleepover at Grans at 27 Windsor Rd, Barry. 
John's birthplace is stated by the enumerator in the 1901 Census as  Anglesey, but then in the 1911 as Llanddeusant/.   Are they one and the same.. I'm afraid Welsh geography baffles me.

Perhaps John did revert to Shoemaking in the 1881 Census before he died...perhaps it was a less strenuous job than milling.

You've given heaps to think about.   I'll get on to rechecking everthing again and hope my b-in-law has some little piece of information to help .
thanks and cheers for now
Gay

Oops!  Sorry about that.
I really made a mess of that didn't I?
I have  William born 1859,
Rees born abt 1863, but her doesn't appear on the 1871 Census.
Rowland born abt 1872,
These are from the LDS OPRs   Llanddeusant, Carmarthen, Wales Batch
 No.  C099321
 I have no idea when John (snr) married, or to whom...

The reason I am reluctant at this time, to accept the Shoemaker in the 1881 Census, is because of the greater age difference between John and Margaret, compared to the 1871 Census, despite the  children being the same.
I agree that a Farmer is closer to a Miller than a shoemaker.   
It seems odd , if indeed the father was a shoemaker in 1881, that on his marriage certificate,  his son would identify the earlier occupation of  his father as being a Miller, rather than his later occupation of Shoemaker.  (If I haven't confused you, ços its confusing me) 

I am trying to narrow down the time frame for his death in the hope of identifying his parents.
John Williams is such a popular name in Wales... and I am assuming there is the normal naming pattern in Wales.
Sorry for the confusion....Its late and I need to go to bed to clear my head again, I think.
Gay

the records have now been released by FindMyPast 

Thanks for that wake up call... .I must have missed the email from FindMyPast to that effect..
I see Jacob Standley is available, but I cannot find three records that I am searching for which appear in the  Catalogue of TNA..

Gay