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Monmouthshire / Re: Alsop Trevethin - advice on search
« on: Monday 23 April 07 06:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip Osprey, I'll look into that.

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Monmouthshire / Alsop Trevethin - advice on search
« on: Sunday 22 April 07 00:32 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I would appreciate some advice on how to continue with my Monmouthsire search.

I believe that my g-g-grandfather is William Alsop living with Elizabeth Hale (his mother according to the 1881 census) and her husband, George Hale in 1841  (Pontypool).  He is about 7yrs in 1841, and there are two slightly older Alsop's in the same household, George, 12 yrs, and Martha, 9 yrs.  It appears his mother has remarried.

The Parish transcripts (linked from this site) have some promising leads

1832 Baptism Trevethin: Martha Alsop d. William Alsop, Elizabeth Alsop, Abersychan, miner.
1829 Baptism Panteg: Geo s/o Wm & Elizth Alsop, Ynysgoy, miner.
1828 Marriage Trevethin: William Alsop, Panteague, Elizabeth Jenkins, otp, George Alsop, Mary Alsop.
(the Ynysgoy threw me for a bit, but I understand it's consistent)

William and Elizabeth seem very common names during this period, so I'm not "inking" these leads.

I've looked over the links/resources provided on this site - thanks a million to all involved - but I'm not sure how to continue at this point (I'm in New Zealand).  Any helpful advice appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

BLA

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 William Alsop (b.1834)
« on: Saturday 21 April 07 00:20 BST (UK)  »
Fantastic Barbara, thanks very much.  It  seems to clear up which William is mine (this one).

All the best (great photo, by the way),

Brent

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / 1851 William Alsop (b.1834)
« on: Friday 20 April 07 23:14 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

If anyone could tell me details of the household that contained William Alsop (b.1834), I would be grateful.  Pontypool/Trevethin area.  Possibly a mixture of Alsop and Hale.

(I think his mother may have remarried, there's an Elizabeth Hale, mother, living with him in 1881, and what looks like a combined Hale/Alsop household in 1841).

There's 2-3 William Al(l)sop's born mid 1830s, I'm just having a little trouble disentangling them.

Thanks in advance.

BLA

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Gloucestershire / Re: Alsops Westley Frampton Cotterel
« on: Saturday 14 April 07 01:54 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Robert and Karon,

It's a little bit addictive I've found.  A jig-saw puzzle with odd poignant moments (my William got killed at age 54 in 1890 the Llanerch Colliery explosion - poor buggar).

Question:  Was there a movement of Alsop/Allsop/Allsopp/Alsopp from Gloucestershire to Monmouthshire about 1800?  Going through some of the Mon. parish transcripts, it looked as if they "appear" about that time?

Must dash, kids to feed.

Brent

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Gloucestershire / Re: Alsops Westley Frampton Cotterel
« on: Saturday 14 April 07 01:29 BST (UK)  »
Hello Janice,

I'm believe I'm descended from William Alsop (b. abt 1836, Trevethin), father of William James, and George (my g-grandfather, 99% sure), husband of Sarah, in the 1861 census.

I know there is another William (abt 1838), who I assume is yours?  I have trouble with the two.

I'm less certain about William in the 1841 and 1851 censuses (censi?), I think -

1851 - George Allsop, 27, head, Harriet, 24, wife, John, 7, son, Rachel, 3, dau, William, 15, lodger, (all Pontypool birth place), and Stephen Allsop, 60, lodger, Gloucestershire.

1841 - Stephen Alsop, 1791-1796, not in county, Thomas, 1816-1821, not in county, George, 1821-1826, Joseph, 1830, Elizabeth, 1832, William, 1836 (these in county).

but I'm not so sure.  I've given age ranges in the 1841 because of the rounding down for those over 15 years.  Perhaps the lodgers are lodging with son/brother in 1851?

Are any of these yours not mine? Or, are they related to yours in some way (they're ours, as it were)?

Any help appreciated, I'm new to this.

Sincerely
Brent Alsop in NZ.

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1861 William James Alsop (abt 3yrs old)
« on: Thursday 12 April 07 11:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Tanji.  I'm guessing that it's Abersychan for the address.  G-G grandma Sarah might be from Bristol, Somerset originally.
It's reassuring they are there in 1861, things seem to be fitting together.   (I hoped that they might be sharing with other family at that time, but that was probably wishful thinking).

Thanks again,
BLA

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / 1861 William James Alsop (abt 3yrs old)
« on: Thursday 12 April 07 10:38 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

If anyone has any information about the household that William James Allsop (b. 1858-59) was a child in during 1861, I would appreciate it.  Trevethin or thereabouts.
I hoping for a William as father, possibly a 0-1 yr old George (my g-grandfather), the wife/mother might be Sarah.

Thanks in advance
BLA

PS If Osprey reads this, thank you very much for the tip about the Parish registers at Genuki.  Trevethin and Panteg had a little, but Pontnewynydd was a gold mine (although looking at ancestors' occupations, coal mine might be a better metaphor).

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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 or 1851 census William Alsop
« on: Wednesday 11 April 07 11:54 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all your help, both of you.  I wasn't expecting such a positive response, and so quickly.

It's useful to know about the possibility of relatives as lodgers.  It might make sense of Stephen and William from 1841 to 1851 - I'll keep an open mind.

Oh well, to bed!

Cheers
BLA

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