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Stirlingshire / Re: CLUBBs of Airth
« on: Tuesday 17 March 09 23:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Hannah

Been off the case for a while but intend getting back into it all again soon.

Interesting what you say about the newspaper indices in the library.  I was (partially) responsible for the Stirling Observer ones as I was supervisor on the project in the early-mid 80s that created those indices in the first place!  Good to see they are still around.

I'll check out the Airth Parish burials now that I know they are there.

Hi Bill - interested to talk to you about some of this stuff too perhaps if you're local.  I found it relatively easy to get back to the Airth Clubbs (Alexander and Margaret MacLaren) but difficult to get any further back than that.  I was at Aberdeen University as a student many years ago - I'm from Stirling originally - and I couldn't believe how many Clubbs were in the Aberdeen telephone directory.  So I guessed there was some kind of connection but have never been able to find it.  what source do you have for alexander being originally from Pitsligo?  also - I seem to remember someone saying many years ago that the Clubb name came from Danish fishermen arriving in the NE of Scotland but obviously I've never been able to make much out of that either.

Also trying to establish where John Club of Club's Tomb 'fame' fits into the picture.


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Stirlingshire / Re: CLUBBs of Airth
« on: Friday 20 April 07 22:28 BST (UK)  »
Went out yesterday to have a wee look and found the gravestones fairly quickly (despite my 4-yr old running aobut like a daftie).

They are exactly as you say. 

The 2 stones sit next to each other and are the same size. At the top of each stone is inscribed the date 30 January 1830.  Then underneath are the inscriptions as you have described.  I don't understand how this can work.  Were the stones perhaps put up in 1830 when the plot was procured?  and then inscribed at time of death?  Seems odd that the inscription dates at the top predate the dates of death.

Also had a quick look at club's Tomb and am going back on sunday for a proper look about.

I'm well and truly stuck at the moment although I have still to get soem information from Stirling council archives.  Managed to find another Archibald - who I think was one of Alexander's sons - who was an ironmonger in Doune.  There are two or three stories related to him on the old Stirling Observer which I am tracking.  In one of them his wife was accidentally poisoned...

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Stirlingshire / Re: CLUBBs of Airth
« on: Friday 13 April 07 20:57 BST (UK)  »
Anne,

Thanks very much.  I really appreciate you taking the time to do this for me.

I do stay locally so will be heading out to Airth when I get the time for a wee look.

I emailed both Stirling and Falkirk archives this afternoon and will go out to see them when I get a chance.  I also want to go and see Club(b)'s Tomb but I need to check a few things with Falkirk first.

I thought that researching a name like Clubb would be relatively straightforward and found it quite easy I suppose to get back to the marriage of Alexander ad Margaret McLarin in 1781.  But before that it is all a bit of a blank just now.

From what I can gather there was, within Scotland, only really  a branch of the Clubbs in Airth and another in Aberdeenshire.  The Aberdeenshire lot seems to be better documented - perhaps the Aberdonian churchmen were a bit more resolute in record keeping - but I have yet to make the connection between the two branches.  ultimately, of course, I would like to know where the family originates from but that is much further down the line.

In the 80s I worked on a project in Stirling to index the local paper (Stirling Observer).  This involved reading through every single issue and recording salient local facts in a card index.  I remember indexing the marriage of Archibald Clubs in 1863 (I know more about life in Stirling in 1863 than is probably healthy).  It was only last week that I found out that he was my great-great-grandfather.   Obviously, one of the reasons for contacting Stirling archives is to see if they kept that index - I'm fairly sure it was handed over to them when our project folded due to lack of money - and hopefully I can ascertain that next week some time.

Thanks again for your help.

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Stirlingshire / Re: CLUBBs of Airth
« on: Friday 13 April 07 12:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks.  The info on John and Jean was interesting.

John was one of 9 children (that I've found so far) that Alexander and Margaret McLarin had.  He and Jean in turn had 10 children as far as I can see.

Perhaps you can help me understand one part though.

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(No. 68)
30.01.1830;
John Clubb died Grangemouth 28.2.1859 aged 75
Jean McNellan died Grangemouth 4.4.1855 aged 74

(No. 69)
30.1.1830
Erected by John Clubb and Jean McNellan to Janet Murray Clubb who died 22.7.1889 aged 69.

I can't see how these dates make sense.  What do the first dates - 30/01/1830 - refer to?  Is that the date of entry into the book?  If so, how can these dates pre-date the dates of death or erection of memorial?  You can tell I'm new to all of this...

I'd love the birth dates of John and Jean's children too.  I think I've dientified aobut 10 so it would be useful to cross check.

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Stirlingshire / CLUBBs of Airth
« on: Tuesday 10 April 07 22:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Looking for any information about the CLUBBs from Airth.   Managed to get back as far as Alexander CLUBB who married Margaret McLARIN on 02/02/1781.  Am now well and truly stuck.  I think Alexander might be the son/nephew/grandson of the James Club of Westfield who built Club's Tomb (the spelling of the Clubb name differs greatly with Club, Clubs, Clubbs, Clube, Clubb all variants).  Can't establish that as a fact, though.  Also can't find any more information from anywhere and am looking for some ideas.  Can anyone suggest an alternative route for me to explore?

Apart from the Alexander mentioned above, there's another one around the same time - possibly slightly earlier - in Airth who married Janet NEILSON or NILLSON.  As far as I can see, he they had 4 children (that I've been able to find) - john b1751, James b1745, Janet b1761 and Elizabeth b1748.  Again, I have no info on birth/marriage/death but I suspect it's a branch of the same family given the surname and location.

Any help greatly appreciated.

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