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Midlothian / Re: Burial Records Edinburgh - lookup please
« on: Saturday 07 December 24 01:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hey Richard,

Sorry, for some reason I did not see the replies on this thread, but I did see your personal message and have replied to that this morning  ;)

I too have found the information about Robert Rutherford the flesher/butcher who died in 1847 in Edinburgh, and believe that he may be the father of my ancestor James Rutherford.

A piece of evidence that suggests this might be the case is that Robert's death in Edinbugh was published in the newspaper in Caithness see below:

“DEATHS: At No. 2, Romilly Place, Tobago Street, Edinburgh on the 22nd ultimo, Mr Robert Rutherford, aged 41.” - John o’ Groat Journal, Friday 31 December 1847

I believe this indicates that he had relatives in Caithness, or was welll known in Caithness, otherwise why would his death be reported there?

In 1847 Elizabeth Sutherland was living in Berriedale, Latheron parish, Caithness with his reputed son the then 10yr old James Rutherford. Thomas Rutherford and his wife Jane Sutherland were also living in Olrig, Caithness in the 1840s, though by 1851 they had relocated to West Kilbride in Ayrshire.

Interested to hear your thoughts

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire / Re: St Ives, Huntingdon - Parish Register - Look up request
« on: Wednesday 15 May 24 09:48 BST (UK)  »
You were indeed a help  ;)

John Overall who married Sarah Mitchell at Hemingford Grey in 1711 was the son of John Overall and Elizabeth Wagstaff, John was the brother of James Overall who married Carrina Hull.

I suspect that Martha who died at Hemingford Grey in 1680 was the wife of Henry Overall, another brother of John (bap 1640/1 Gamlingay) and James (bap 1642/3 Gamlingay). There are some legal records that mention a Henry Overall of Hemingford Grey, gent in 1682. But I am yet to prove that this Henry matches their brother baptised 1634 in Gamlingay, Cambs.

I believe they were all sons of Henry Overall & Mary Rowell who married in 1624 in Steeple Morden, Cambs. Henry Overall of Gamlingay died in 1668/9 and left a will.

How interesting that you have Overalls in your tree too

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire / Re: Ramsey Parish Record LOOKUP needed - Overall
« on: Tuesday 14 May 24 13:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for letting me know  ;)

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Huntingdonshire / Re: St Ives, Huntingdon - Parish Register - Look up request
« on: Tuesday 14 May 24 13:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi mrs_orrell,

Thanks so much for having a look at the St Ives parish registers for me ;D

How wonderful to finally have Edmund Overall's wife's full name, their marriage date, and the birth/baptism dates for their daughters. So Anne and Carrine were not twins after all, and they were born before Edmund died in Dec 1736...he just didn't help me out and mention them in his will ::)

The Ann Overall buried in 1779 in Ramsey is Edmund's cousin (the daughter of his uncle Francis Overall and aunt Ann Burgess). She was a spinster, and left a will.

The Ann Overall buried in 1763 in Ramsey is her mother (Francis Overall's widow Ann nee Burgess). She also left a will.

Edmund Overall who I now know married Ann White in 1733 was the son of Henry Overall and Carrina Swaine, he was the grandson of James Overall & Carrina Hull who married in 1667 in Holywell cum Needingworth. James Overall and Carrina Hull had 13 children (the baptisms you found in Ramsey between 1668-1692), helpfully they both left wills naming various children and grandchildren. James Overall's son Edmund actually lived in London. He married firstly Sarah Bilio in 1707 at St John at Hackney, and after she died in 1708, married secondly Ann Bulkley in 1711 in Hampshire.

This family has been quite the challenge to sort out, there are many names repeated through the generations.....and to make it more complex a number of them became baptist so there are no baptisms to help figure out who belongs to who! I have had to work off marriages, burials and wills....thank goodness there are LOTS of wills ;)

As far as I can tell, Henry Overall and Carrina Swain did not baptise any of their 5 children (Edmund, Swain, Henry, Carrina & Ellen), and I am yet to find their marriage either (before 1712). I was just lucky that they named one of their children Swain, which lead me to check all the Swain wills in the area. Carrina's father Robert Swaine died in 1721 leaving a will that named his daughter and son-in-law Henry & Carrina Overall.

Thanks again...another missing link tidied up!

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Ramsey Baptisms LOOKUP needed - Ibberson/Hunns
« on: Monday 09 October 23 23:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Galium, of course there are two  ::)

Hopefully the wills will help me keep them straight. My William Hunns died in 1677 (buried 29 Apr 1677), leaving a will (written 21 Apr 1677) in which he is described as William Hunns the elder. He names his children as, Jorat, Margaret, Grace, Edward & John. His wife was named as Elizabeth, whom he married 27 Feb 1662/3 (Elizabeth Tilley), after his first wife Margaret died in June 1662 following young Margaret's birth. Margaret Hunns born 1662 is my direct line.

William Hunns junior does not appear to be his son....possibly a nephew or cousin? William Hunns married Anne Potten 16 Oct 1666, and Dorothy born Feb 1666/67 must be their first child, hence the moniker junior being used.

Thank goodness for wills hey ;)

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Ramsey Baptisms LOOKUP needed - Ibberson/Hunns
« on: Sunday 08 October 23 01:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Galium,

Thanks so much for looking those ones up for me ;)

Looks like we might be dealing with 2 John Ibberson/Eversons as there are two baptisms close together in 1688...

My John Ibberson left a will in 1722 mentioning his son Francis, and daughters Susannah (husband William Eate) & Elizabeth (married surname Lawrance), he also mentions his grandchildren (the children of Isaac Hanker, who had married Margaret Ibberson but she died in 1719).

Interesting that Francis does not show up in the Ramsey baptisms....he is my direct line. It is most likely that he was born after 1696, as he does not marry until 1723/4. He is not mentioned in his grandfather's will (Francis Ibberson 1693/4), but his sisters Susannah, Margaret and Ann are. So we are missing Ann as well....unless she is the unnamed daughter born in 1693. Which, now that I think about it makes sense as the will was written that year and Susannah and Margaret were born 1689 & 1691. The family were baptist by the 1740's so perhaps their non-conformism started before Francis' birth?

Did the Hunns family show up? Or are they also missing from the parish registers?

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire Lookup Requests / Ramsey Baptisms LOOKUP needed - Ibberson/Hunns
« on: Wednesday 20 September 23 04:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

Hoping someone may be able to check the Huntingdon baptisms for the below families:

Children of John Ibberson/Everson of Ramsey (married 1686, buried 1722):
Jeremiah - buried 1686
Margaret - buried 1688
Susannah - married 1718
Margaret - married 1713
Ann
Elizabeth - married 1719
Francis - married 1723/24
Mary - buried 1720

Children of William Hunns of Ramsey (second marriage 1662/3, buried 1677)
Jorat/Gerat - eldest son in will
Margaret - abt 1662
Edward - abt 1663/4, buried 1664
Elizabeth - abt 1665, buried 1666
Thomas - abt 1667, buried 1667
William - abt 1668, buried 1669
Grace - abt 1670
Edward - abt 1673, married 1699
John - abt 1675 - youngest son in will

I have information from marriages, burials and wills, and am hoping that the baptisms will help me better sort them out ;)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire / Re: St Ives, Huntingdon - Parish Register - Look up request
« on: Thursday 10 August 23 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Ah, ok Galium....that is very interesting!

So, it looks like his widow may have had twin daughters after Edmund died. Naming one of them Carrine certainly hints towards Edmund being the son of Henry & Carrina Overall of Ramsey. Sadly Henry also died in 1737. He does not mention Edmund's children in his will, but I suspect they may not have been born yet.

I wonder what became of Ann & her daughter Carrine?

Jenny

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Huntingdonshire / St Ives, Huntingdon - Parish Register - Look up request
« on: Thursday 10 August 23 12:58 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I am hoping SKS may have access to the parish registers for St Ives, Huntingdon, and be able to look up the baptisms for me.

I am looking for children born to Edmund & Anne Overall at St Ives.

Edmund Overall was buried at St Ives on 13 Dec 1736, and in his will (written 14 Nov 1736, proved Archdeaconry Court Huntingdon 14 May 1737) he states that his wife's name was Ann.

A child, named Ann (daughter of the widow Ann Overal) was buried at St Ives on 21 Oct 1737.

No children are mentioned in the will, though Ann could have been born after Edmund died. It is also possible that he had children, but just did not mention them in his will.

I was hoping someone may be able to check the baptisms for Ann Overall c1737, and/or any other children to this couple. I have not yet located Edmund & Ann's marriage either.

I believe that Edmund Overall was the eldest son of Henry Overall & Carrina Swaine of Ramsey, Hunts. There is a marriage for an Edmund Overall to Ann Bulkley in Hampshire in 1711, but this is for his uncle Edmund. Edmund Overall of St Ives, I believe, was born around 1710-12, most likely in Ramsey.

Any help would be appreciated  ;)

Jenny

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