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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Bristol Lookup Please...Wertheim Family
« on: Sunday 21 November 10 17:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I've only just come across this. I have a Barry Wertheim who married Lilly Elizabeth Osborne on 7th July 1878 (she is a cousin on my mother's mother's side). His father is given as Moses and he seems to be the brother of Samuel, born c. 1841, who moved to Ebbw Vale sometime before 1881 and was a steelworker. I assume that it is his son Windsor who was killed in the First World War.

Barry had a son Barry William M Wertheim who was born in Keynsham in 1879. He was, like his father, a bootmaker. He seemed to have attempted to emigrate to the US in 1900 but for some reason was refused entry (his name is scored out in the ship's passenger list and in the immigration records). In 1911 he is back in Bristol and living with a 'housekeeper' but no sign of his wife of 14 years or their child, nor have I yet found a marriage.

Wynne Weston-Davies
 

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Anglesey / Re: New topic stemming from an old one. Evans family. Gaerwen
« on: Monday 28 January 08 22:53 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if this links in with my interest of Evans and Gaerwen? My great great grandmother was Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Richard. She was baptised in Gaerwen Calvinistic Methodist chapel on 29 August 1813. Her son Richard Cadwaladr Griffith and her grandaughter Elizabeth Jane Griffith were both married in the same chapel. Richard Evans, as far as I can tell, was an agricultural labourer who, in 1841, was living in Heneglwys not far away. Elizabeth married Evan Griffith in Llangefni parish church on 12 Nov 1839. I have not been able to find Richard or his wife (Catherine Williams) after 1841.

Wynne

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Anglesey / Re: Cadwaladr and Hughes of Plas Goch
« on: Sunday 24 June 07 23:31 BST (UK)  »
Ieuan

Thanks for the response. I think it's very likely that there is a connection although it's unlikely that Elin and Griffith were brother and sister. He was definitely born about 1786 and if she is three generations back from Jane Roberts it is more likely that she was an aunt. Going by family tradition it seems that Cadwaladr was a 'royal' name and only handed down to those descended from one of the Cadwaladr/Cadwallon kings of Britain. It appears that there were very few people using the name in Llanidan in the late 18th/early 19th century so it is likely that there was a family connection between these two. I am hoping that a visit to the Anglesey records office will reveal more.

Wynne

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Anglesey / Re: Census lookup please - GRIFFITHS
« on: Monday 12 March 07 17:30 GMT (UK)  »
I can only find two likely contenders for the sons Thomas and John in the 1851 census. Thomas, aged 16 and born Holyhead, is listed as living with Mary Griffiths, widow, 66, farming 28 acres at Penial fin-mer (looks like), Llanfwrog. Relationship to Mary is grandson. There are two other grandchildren living there (not John) and a married daughter called Margaret but too young (28) to be Thonas's mother.

In the same year a John G is shown as living at 58 Mill Street Holyhead with his grandmother Anne Williams, 77, Pauper. He is shown as, born Holyhead and a scholar pauper. Could these be the right ones?

Wynne

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Anglesey / Cadwaladr and Hughes of Plas Goch
« on: Monday 12 March 07 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help me in researching my father's mother's family who were from Anglesey?  Her father, Richard Cadwaladr Griffith(s) was a chemist and postmaster (of LlanfairPG and Llanfairisgaer and, later, of Portdinorwic). His father was Evan Griffith(s) and Richard was born in Llanfihangel Esgeifiog in 1841. Evan's father was Griffith Cadwaladr (the family was clearly still using patronymics), born about 1786 in Llanidan. My grandmother, Richard's daughter, claimed that the family was connected in some way to the well known family Hughes of Plas Goch. This might seem unlikely as both Evan Griffith and his father were labourers but the family tradition seems to have been very strong in this respect and included may details which I have since managed to corroborate (eg a link to the Gee family of Essex and to Fortunatus Wright, a Liverpool privateer). I am aware of the ancient Welsh connections of the Cadwaladr name and also that Cadwaladr was a relatively uncommon name in Anglesey in the early 19th centu. I am hoping that someone will have more information that will enable me to link this family to Hughes of Plas Goch if such a connection exists.

Wynne

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