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Herefordshire / Re: South & Wood families of Herefordshire
« on: Monday 26 November 12 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thanx muchly Allan for your interest & assistance.

I have 9 chn in my records now - Ann was baptised at Moreton Jeffries (8 Sep 1799) but her parents were given as "James" & Kezia thought possible mistake by sexton in records as she, Ann, appears as 'sister' in 1851 Census. You also missed 'Thomas' as he was 1st cab off the rank at Stretton G. in 15 Nov 1801.

I've been using FamilySearch for many years - usually the 1st place I look.   :)

Joseph (1804) is our rele, found him in Worcester as a Baker in 1841, then in Birmingham 1851, before immigrating to Australia in 1858.  As far as I can find, no others besides his wife & chn came with him.
 
Having problems with his wife also, but that is in another place & county.  :(

Cheers . . . . . BonnieB 

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Herefordshire / South & Wood families of Herefordshire
« on: Monday 26 November 12 04:25 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

I am trying to work past a blackstump with these two families.

Thomas Wood was a School teacher (son's marriage cert) who married Keziah South in 1799 at Moreton Jefferies HEF.

They had 9 chn in Moreton Jeffries & Stretton Grandison, but from the latter, the family disappears.  I only know of 3 out of the 9 chn - Joseph & his unmarried sisters, Elizabeth & Ann (together in 1851 Census). Joseph & family came to Australia soon after - nothing more on the sisters.

Keziah's possible parents are Richard & Susannah South.  There is a PCC will for this Richard South who dies in 1801 naming his chn . . . BUT neither he nor his wife are buried in Moreton Jeffries where he wrote the Will in 1792. 

I have looked at the NBI, nothing found on either couple.

Any suggestions would gratefully received.

Regards . . . . BonnieB

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Staffordshire / Re: Advice needed - Groves of Wolverhampton
« on: Thursday 09 February 12 21:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thanx muchly Willow.

Yes - have taken all the Grove/s listed on the PCC Indexes, Diocese of Lichfield & Royal Peculiar Court of Wolverhampton Probates - nothing to match so far.

That is a very good writeup on steel toys - I didn't really appreciate what it was until I read that Museum article.

Wonder if I can chase the business to see when it changed hands or is sold?  

Thank you for answering my question & keeping an eye out.

BonnieB

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Staffordshire / Re: Advice needed - Groves of Wolverhampton
« on: Thursday 09 February 12 20:31 GMT (UK)  »
Morning Willow,

Sorry about that.   I have been through the St Peter's records via the Archives & found the below bapt. to a Joseph & Jane:
Chn:    John - 1794, Jane 1796, Mary 1798, Joseph 1800, Louisa 1803, Harriet 1806, William 1807, Henry 1810.

I looked at those burials - & kept them to one side until I could prove the connection.  With the Jane, Louisa & Harriet they were either staying with relatives on a Census or mentioned in Wills or other docos to prove the link.

I've also done the Census search looking for all Grove* born W*pton - have found the name spelt as Grove / Groves.

Found 2 interesting docos yesterday - 
Dated 1810 - Joseph Grove a Steel Toy Maker of Wolverhampton taking on a young apprentice.
Dated 1818 - John Groves  Steel Toy Maker of Wolverhampton taking on an apprentice.

I thought that if I could find the father's Will that would / could lead to the children.

Cheers from Oz  . . . . . . .  BonnieB

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Staffordshire / Advice needed - Groves of Wolverhampton
« on: Wednesday 08 February 12 22:29 GMT (UK)  »
My husband's 3x great grandfather was Joseph Grove/s & he was a Steel toy & spectacle frame maker in Wolverhampton during the 1794-1818 + period.

1818 Directory of Wolverhampton shows:
GROVE      - Joseph, Steel Toy Manufacturer 24 Stafford Street
     “          - J., Victualler & Steel Toy & Spectacle Maker,  Union, Canal Street

He & his wife, Jane, had poss. 8 children bapt. at St Peter Wolverhampton 1794-1810.

From there is a bit of a mystery.   

I have found information on 3 of the daughters:
       Jane [1796] mar Joseph Whittall 1821 in Handsworth, Stafford - then lived in Birmingham.
       Louisa [1803] mar William Templeman 1825 in Newington, Surrey - Lady's nurse.
       Harriet [1806] mar Joseph Wood 1838 in Birmingham, Warwick . . . . our ancestor - to Australia.

Nothing on the other children has been found.

I searched for a Will for Joseph as Harriet had her own monies separate from her husband - looked in the PCC Indexes, Diocese of Lichfield & Royal Peculiar Court of Wolverhampton - nothing.

This has become a bit of a black stump & so any advice or assistance would be most welcome.

Thanking you,

BonnieB

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Birmingham Probate pre 1858
« on: Tuesday 25 October 11 22:15 BST (UK)  »
Good morning,

This question has been answered by a very kind archivist's assistant at Lichfield.

YvonneB

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Warwickshire / Re: Birmingham Probate
« on: Tuesday 25 October 11 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I've heard back from Lichfield in which a very kind archivist's assistant fully answered my question plus added a little extra.

BUT - I also did find, for those of us near an LDS library, that the indexes for the Calendar of wills & admons 1651-1860 for this Diocese have been filmed by the LDS, along with the original wills, admons & inventories.
In the Catalogue look under:  England Warwick . . . .  then Probate indexes  . . .  then looking for the Diocese of Lichfield records.

Thank you for the helpful advice given by others.

BonnieB

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Warwickshire / Re: Birmingham Probate
« on: Monday 24 October 11 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Good morning,

I heard back from the Archives yesterday & they suggested that I get in contact with the Staffordshire Archives at their site    www.staffordshire.gov.uk/archives.

They explained that all wills (except PCC) proved in Birmingham can be found at the Lichfield Records Office as at that time Birmingham & Wolverhampton were part of the Litchfield Diocese.
Also that they have a project to index the early Wills from the 17th & 18th Century, but check to see whether they can look at later indexes.

Which of course, I will do.   Hope this assists someone else.

BonnieB


Quote from: BonnieB on Sunday 23 October 11 05:00 BST (UK)
Thank you Keitht - will send them a message & will see what they come up with.

Will post the results.

BonnieB

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Staffordshire / Re: TUCKLEY, Thomas
« on: Monday 24 October 11 01:52 BST (UK)  »
Good morning,

Firstly, I'm not connected, sorry.

But, in the 1891 & 1901 Census, Thomas seems to be a Railway goods guard. A daughter, Elizabeth M. aged 9 yrs is with them in 1901 as well as sons (most possibly) from a previous marriage.

Hope this helps somewhat . . .   BonnieB

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