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Cheshire / Re: Robert Brierley/Mary Bancroft
« on: Thursday 10 September 09 01:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Carole

Yes have tried that.

I have the birth certificate for Emma. I am assuming that they are related simply because they seem to have each others children on the night of the 1841 census.

Just can't find the connection. I'll keep looking.

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Cheshire / Robert Brierley/Mary Bancroft
« on: Thursday 10 September 09 00:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

I am looking for information on Robert Brierley b 1814c and Mary Bancroft b1815c both on 1841 census in Cheadle Bulkley Cheshire.

On census shows Susannah with them on night of census however she is the daughter of William Brierley & Hannah.

Conversely, Emma Brierley b 1838 daughter of Robert Brierley & Mary is with William and Hannah on night of census in 1841. I assume that there is a relationship between William and Robert Brierley but as yet haven't been able to find a connection.

I also haven't been able to find a marriage between Robert and Mary, yet Mary is shown with the name Brierley on the census.

Has anyone come across these names and can offer any help?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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Cheshire / Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« on: Saturday 15 November 08 07:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jean,

Thanks for your information posted.

As far as I can ascertain, the first born was Alfred c 1819 in Denton and of more particular interest to me is William b 1823 also born in Denton Lancs both with parents as William Brierley and mother Hannah.

Thanks again

Norm

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Cheshire / Re: Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1837
« on: Monday 10 November 08 23:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chris,

I hope you can get me past a brick wall.

I am searching the Brierley family, and at this point have William Briarley (Brierley) married to a Hannah. William b 1782c  & Hannah b 1791c, according to LDS both of Tintwistle.

Can you see in your records, a marriage between these two and any mention of Hannah's maiden name?

Regards

Norm

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: William Briarley b 1823 Denton Lancs.
« on: Thursday 29 March 07 08:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Valda

I think I am a bit closer so solving my riddle on William Brierley.

Given that his father is the one on the 1841 Census in Dooley lane Tintwistle aged 50 and also on the 1851 Census at same address but aged 69, then assuming he was born 1782 and not in Cheshire, I think I have found William Snr b Hollingsworth Lancashire from National Archives which shows him being discharged aged 31 in 1813 i.e b 1782 from 17th Dragoons (Light) . If this is the case could you please advise where a birth for Hollingsworth is likely to be registered? I have found a christening for same year on LDS for Saint Margaret Chadderton Hollinwood Lancashire, but this seems to be a long way from Denton, Padfield, Hadfield and Glossop where the rest seem to eminate. Hollingsworth seems more likely as it in that area.

Hope you can help

Best regards

Norm

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: William Briarley b 1823 Denton Lancs.
« on: Thursday 08 March 07 05:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Valda & Pegasuss

Have been doing a bit more digging and have found the following;

William Whitworth b 1753 Arnfield, Mottram m Betty Moss 22/2/1778 and had the following children;

Sarah          c  19/5/1779 Arnfield
Debora        c   9/1/1782  Arnfield
Mary            c 18/4/1784  Arnfield
Hannah       c 12/4/1787  Arnfield
John            c   7/1/1793  Arnfiled  d 22/2/1798
Whitworth   c    1/5/1797  Hollingsworth
Jenny           c  26/4/1803 Hollingsworth

William Sidebottom m Mary Whitworth 10/10/1803

John Winterbottom m Sarah ? and had the following children;

Mary           c 25/  1/1789 Mottram
Lettice        c 19/  8/1787 Mottram
Samuel       c   8/  5/1791 Mottram
Hannah      c   7/  4/1793 Mottram
John           c   6/12/1795 Mottram
Robert        c   2/  6/1798 Mottram
Joseph       c  28/ 4/1800 Mottram
James        c    9/11/1801 Mottram

Joshua Sidebottom m Mary Winterbottom 18/4/1808

Ralph Howard m Hannah and had the following children;

Sarah         c 18/  4/1779 Mottram
Mary           c 12/11/1780 Mottram
John           c  24/ 4/1785 Mottram
Ann            c  23/11/1787 Mottram
Betty          c  13/  5/1792 Mottram

Samuel Sidebottom m Mary Howard 22/7/1804

These are the only families I can find with both daughters named Mary and Hannah who married Sidebottoms and their birthdates are relatively close.

However, I can not find any relationship between a Hannah Whitworth/Winterbottom/Howard to a William Brierley.

Any clues where to from here?

Are there any pre 1837 parish marriage registers fro Cheshire and surrounding counties that are free to search?

Thanks for all your efforts thus far.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: William Briarley b 1823 Denton Lancs.
« on: Saturday 24 February 07 03:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Dinkey and Valda for your help.

I think that you are both right.

These census findings are the only reference I can find with William Snr, Hannah and William jnr, although this would make William jnr's birthdate about 1826.


Having said that. I wonder what happened to Emma, who wasn't with them in 1851, but would have only been 12.

The 1851 census also shows that Mary Sidebottom (sister-in-law) is residing with them. Might one assume that Hannah was a Sidebottom too?

Once again, thanks for your help and interest. I'll keep digging away.

Regards

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: William Briarley b 1823 Denton Lancs.
« on: Friday 23 February 07 07:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Carole,

You may well be right about the census.

I have William b 1823's parish register transcription and death certificate, so am reasonably sure that I have the right person. William and Jane appear in all the censuses until 1871. William died in 1878.

As Lancashire Derbyshire, and Cheshire share borders, maybe there is a cross over of information with registration districts etc.

Thanks again for trying for me. I'll keep on searching.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: William Briarley b 1823 Denton Lancs.
« on: Friday 23 February 07 06:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your interest Pagasus,

You may well be right, however, there is another Briarley christened in Denton Lancashire. That being Alfred also to William and Hannah. I am thinking that this is probably William's brother due to the same parent's name and christened in the same town.

I have his birth date as being 3rd May 1819 and christened 22/8/1819.

Maybe the birthdate is incorrect given the marriage date, but that is what is on LDS.

Or, then again, maybe they had Alfred out of wedlock.

Thanks again for your input.

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