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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Wednesday 20 January 21 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jan, I have sent him a personal message
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Tuesday 19 January 21 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Bev is having problems replying to posts, so she asked me to upload this photo of Ben's grandson also Benjamin b 1845. Does anybody else have photos of that generation for comparison?
She is also asking if Easby Carver is still on here and asks if he can reference a 1930s Australian Carver tree that he mentioned in a post on page 6 reply 47/1/1/10
She is also asking if Easby Carver is still on here and asks if he can reference a 1930s Australian Carver tree that he mentioned in a post on page 6 reply 47/1/1/10
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Sunday 10 January 21 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I’ve finally had a DNA test through Ancestry. It hasn’t come up with any close matches, so wondered if anyone other Carvers on here had taken one?
Chris
I’ve finally had a DNA test through Ancestry. It hasn’t come up with any close matches, so wondered if anyone other Carvers on here had taken one?
Chris
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Sunday 10 January 21 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul and Jan
Ben was an indirect ancestor of mine and have spent a lot of time researching him along with Bev, who is a direct ancestor down under. I’ll make sure she sees this as it is new info for us.
Certainly an interesting take on Sarah Dobbs and Peace. Are the references easily available?
Regards
Chris
Ben was an indirect ancestor of mine and have spent a lot of time researching him along with Bev, who is a direct ancestor down under. I’ll make sure she sees this as it is new info for us.
Certainly an interesting take on Sarah Dobbs and Peace. Are the references easily available?
Regards
Chris
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 18:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jan, I’ve been in touch with him off firing and he’s confirmed that there wasn’t anything before 1719
Chris
Chris
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Saturday 13 June 20 21:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan,
Do you have the full transcription of the Southill Church book?
I've just come across a note saying that Thomas was a trustee in 1714, way before his marriage and settlement.
Thanks
Chris
Do you have the full transcription of the Southill Church book?
I've just come across a note saying that Thomas was a trustee in 1714, way before his marriage and settlement.
Thanks
Chris
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Friday 12 June 20 09:43 BST (UK) »
HI, has anybody any knowledge of the Keysoe Carvers and where they fit in?
Has anybody seen the will of Samuel dated 1712 appointing his wife Elizabeth as executor?
Is this the Sam whose wife Martha died in 1702 and he remarried?
I'm wondering if not, could he be this Sam's father and also of Thomas of Turvey/Southill
Chris
Has anybody seen the will of Samuel dated 1712 appointing his wife Elizabeth as executor?
Is this the Sam whose wife Martha died in 1702 and he remarried?
I'm wondering if not, could he be this Sam's father and also of Thomas of Turvey/Southill
Chris
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Thursday 11 June 20 12:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan,
It's interesting starting again with a different perspective. When working back in time you tend to accept someone else's assumptions about early birth dates (for nonconformists in my case). But starting at the earliest known ancestor and working forward and checking all "facts" again, you spot the anomalies. So here goes:
Thomas Carver married Mary Bromidge in 1720, but the births of 4 assumed children were after 1728.
Of these only 2 could reasonably be proven: Rebecca 1728 (burial of infant) and Rev John 1733 (obit). I now think Samuel was born 1830 (aged 14 at apprenticeship), but think Thomas would have been born a lot earlier because a) he married in 1746 and b) first born son normally named after father, so I'm guessing c1721/2.
t's very possible that others were born in the intervening eras, possibly 3 of them in 1722/3, 1724/5 and 1726/7. So what happened to them?
I've had a quick scan of all the postings to see if there were unexplained Carvers appearing in Wrestlingworth, but thought you might have some theories that could fit this pattern? Could this be the missing link? Also wonder where the name Rebecca comes from?
Over to you
Chris.
PS Are you the Jan B I had correspondence with back in 2007 with a onetel email?
It's interesting starting again with a different perspective. When working back in time you tend to accept someone else's assumptions about early birth dates (for nonconformists in my case). But starting at the earliest known ancestor and working forward and checking all "facts" again, you spot the anomalies. So here goes:
Thomas Carver married Mary Bromidge in 1720, but the births of 4 assumed children were after 1728.
Of these only 2 could reasonably be proven: Rebecca 1728 (burial of infant) and Rev John 1733 (obit). I now think Samuel was born 1830 (aged 14 at apprenticeship), but think Thomas would have been born a lot earlier because a) he married in 1746 and b) first born son normally named after father, so I'm guessing c1721/2.
t's very possible that others were born in the intervening eras, possibly 3 of them in 1722/3, 1724/5 and 1726/7. So what happened to them?
I've had a quick scan of all the postings to see if there were unexplained Carvers appearing in Wrestlingworth, but thought you might have some theories that could fit this pattern? Could this be the missing link? Also wonder where the name Rebecca comes from?
Over to you
Chris.
PS Are you the Jan B I had correspondence with back in 2007 with a onetel email?
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Bedfordshire / Re: CARVER Ramblings Part 2
« on: Saturday 06 June 20 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi, anybody still out there?
After several years of inactivity for various medical, technology and family problems, Lockdown finally concentrated my mind in recovering "lost" data from a variety of backups and the desire to write a coherent account of the Southill Carver descendants. One of the advantages of going through every bit of info from scratch is that I worked forward in time rather than backwards and several tidbits now fall into place.
One of the enigmas is John Carver b Hitchin 1762, apprenticed in Hitchin 1778 and died London 1836. His will mentions his wife, unnamed, and son John. Otherwise there are no records/clues as to who and when he married and when his son was born.
I have several possible London theories, but started looking back nearer to home. One possible is marriage to Elizabeth Merrington in Cockayne Hartley in 1781. Jan seems to have a theory about this, but is there proof that it can't be my John?
Chris
After several years of inactivity for various medical, technology and family problems, Lockdown finally concentrated my mind in recovering "lost" data from a variety of backups and the desire to write a coherent account of the Southill Carver descendants. One of the advantages of going through every bit of info from scratch is that I worked forward in time rather than backwards and several tidbits now fall into place.
One of the enigmas is John Carver b Hitchin 1762, apprenticed in Hitchin 1778 and died London 1836. His will mentions his wife, unnamed, and son John. Otherwise there are no records/clues as to who and when he married and when his son was born.
I have several possible London theories, but started looking back nearer to home. One possible is marriage to Elizabeth Merrington in Cockayne Hartley in 1781. Jan seems to have a theory about this, but is there proof that it can't be my John?
Chris