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Has anyone found/looked at the marriage licence? Many of these are on ancestry.com - to which I don't currently have a subscription. These usually contain some extra info of interest.
And do the Banns contain any extra info? - likely not?
It's James for whom some extra info would be useful.

And it's not certain James was connected to the army before his marriage.
His father-in-law Adam Hill was "many years Mess-master to the Officers of the Brigade of Guards", so it may have been through him that James got the job of sutler to the 1st regiment of foot (later Grenadier Guards).

Dear Bruce

As to why the 5 Austin daughters and 1 brother went to Madras/ Ceylon (now Chennai/Sri Lanka), I think most can be explained in terms of who went first ..

Ceylon: probably Mary Ann (1806-75) went first, marrying William Morris - do you have details of their marriage? I have a note to look in Blackwoods Magazine of 1829.
Martha (1817-1870s) and William (1811-48) presumably were influenced by their being there: Martha possibly husband-seeking - she met George Lee on the boat out, marrying him later that year (1841) in Kandy; and William to seek his fortune as a coffee-planter.
The question we still haven't answered is whether Mary Ann meeting William Morris was because of a relationship to Dr William Austin (1790-1871), who married William M's sister.
Still have no info on where the father James Austin came from.

Madras: Susanna Sophia (1804-53) went out to Madras in late 1833 with her surgeon husband William Liddell to become Assistant Coroner there, on the Wellington, a (very interesting) ship captained by his brother James Liddell. They took her sister Sophia (1808-67) who later (1842) married Rev John Garrett - I have a memoir of their family by their daughter Mary Sophia Rice.
Finally, Eliza (1819-70s) went out presumably to stay with the Liddells until she married the banker John Innes Geddes there in 1849.

The theme common to probably Sophia, Martha and Eliza, of going to India/Ceylon to seek a husband, is a well-known phenomenon. I guess it appealed to a certain section of society, reasonably well off daughters of large families ??

So the main question remains - were James and William Austin related?

By the way, I do have more info on James's wife, Sophia Hill, and her family, which helps explain how James ended up catering for the Guards:
From the Gentleman's Magazine, for 1820:
6 November: "In Park-street, Windsor, Adam Hill, many years Mess-master to the Officers of the Brigade of Guards."
Adam's will confirms the relationship.

Best wishes
Denis

@ Graham Simons

Many thanks, that is helpful.  However, I think one still has to search among each parish's links to see which if any give full transcriptions.  And transcription in Cumberland looks to be at that awkward stage where quite a few, but well less than half, are available.  E.g. with your help I've just searched Lamplugh successfully, but other local parishes, esp. Lorton and Loweswater, don't seem to have been done yet ;-(

I've just posted the following on the Crosthwaite Registers request thread, but I hope it's also useful here.  Noting that this thread is quite old (goes back to 2004), can anyone give a general catchup on which parish registers in Cumberland have been transcribed, either printed or (better!) avialable online like the Crosthwaite ones?

Further to my request of a few years back, I've recently discovered that the full transcripts of the I've Crosthwaite Registers 1562-1812 are now available free online on familysearch.org . Just use the Search drop-down menu to search for a Book, and search for "Registers of Crosthwaite".  They are in 4 volumes (printed in around 1930), with Indexes for both Names and Places, and you can either read them online or even download them to your own computer to browse at leisure.  The transcriptions look very carefully done, so though I suppose there could be a few cases in which you'd want to check with a film of the original registers - or even the original register itself, generally they are much easier to use than the originals.

I do subscribe to Ancestry currently, so if there's anything you want me to check let me know.
And I do use scotlndspeople occasionally, though I don't like it's payments through credits system, and its transcriptions of names are often very poor - I think they must be done by non UK natives. And I find Familysearch much more difficult to use since they `improved' it a few years ago - but the quality of those old transcriptions is so much better than Scotlandspeople!

The army service sheet for William Austin states clearly that he was born in Glasgow on 10 Feb 1790, so I'll try to look at the corresponding microfiche at the Sc Gen Soc in Edinburgh when I'm next that way.  If his parents are Robert & Henrietta they were cutting it fine, having only been married on 30 Aug 1789 (acc. Ancestry tree).