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thanks lynne

we know nothing about where or names, all that has been revealed is that grandad was in the 8th army (desert rat) and that the son was born around 1943/44,  but grandad returned home in 47 (already married to nan and had 2 children)and never went back on service, as far as anyone is aware the son never came here but who knows...
i think i should get the service records to see if it gives a location where he was stationed.

many thanks again

hi

apparently another rellie has gone down this root of elimination and print connection and came up with

RG12/211  1891
178 drury lane, london
william is here with sister kate and BiL henry john Mckerley and family, william is a binders lab and henry is a print compositor. no mother listed
william born liverpool in 1873

1881    RG11/131
24 grafton st, st anne, soho, london
emily -wife/marr -born halifax, yorkshire
kate born halifax, yorkshire 1867
william 1874 - liverpool

1871 scotland census

emma - born 1844 halifax, yorkshire - agents wife
kate - born 1866 halifax, yorkshire
caroline - born 1869, somersetshire

so a father never appears on a census

rellie is in possesion of marriage cert for kate and henry MCKENZIE, this gives address as carnaby st, london and FATHER as WILLIAM (deceased) occupation - traveller

and a death cert for emma thompson, she dies in endell st workhouse infirmary in 1890 her address is 178 drury lane, london - informant was workhouse

so where william snr and caroline ended up i know not.....

there is only 1 kate thompson birth for 1867, halifax but the cert reveals mother emma but father james and she can be traced right through, so wrong kate.
william, scholar born liverpool 1873

hi

i am searching for a william thompson, no birth date or place as yet, but i believe ancestry has his wife and daughters on scotland 1871 census

please can anyone look for me to see if william is with them/on the next page etc

ancestry has :


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i am hoping william is there somewhere


many thanks

oh gosh, you lot are so quick replying, i expected to wait days, so thank you for taking an interest.

yes the tree on ancestry is mine and we have the other foulcer siblings pretty much wrapped up.

we have the birth certs for william and roses children and marriage certs for roses siblings.

the 1911 says they have been married 15 years, had 8 children, 7 alive (+2 born after census)
the birthdate for rose is exact as are the childrens, so i am supposing that williams is as well

as there are several williams from liverpool/london i need the marriage to track him down.

The only other clue we have is that rose caroline died in 1936 and it was rumoured that william married again and lost contact with his family from there, i have him on the electoral rolls 1911 up until 1939 and he remained in the same house all the time, but after the war there is no trace of him, we know that half of the park road he lived in was destroyed by ww2 bombing and the electoral rolls confirm that the houses no longer exist.
on his youngest sons enlistment papers, he state william as his father and next of kin, this was 1941 but it says william lives in edmonton, i have checked the rolls but no trace there before or after the war and i have not been able to determine a death entry - we do know for certain that he survived the war and worked in the woolwich arsenal.