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Berkshire / Re: Sorting out the Sarah Partridges
« on: Today at 13:03 »
Thank you very much that fits a lot better, now that John Partridge has been found. I saw there was a potential for other children between those I had, but hadn't found one. So Charles Pembroke married his second cousin Sarah Pembroke, and the Ancestry tree I found was right and mine is wrong. The Ancestry tree belonged to a Common Ancestor match and I couldn't find any problems with it, but by my tree our MCRA was a generation further back than she thought. The DNA match makes much more sense now. Next problem is how to correct my tree without messing it up even more. I do it on Family tree maker software and upload as a GEDcom to Ancestry.

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Berkshire / Sorting out the Sarah Partridges
« on: Today at 10:32 »
I have two Sarah Partridges in my tree.
Sarah #1 was baptised on 6 Feb 1785 in Letcombe Basset d/o James Partridge and Elizabeth nee Scribing / Scriving
I have the following siblings for Sarah #1
William 1781, Jane 1787, Elizabeth 1789, Elizabeth #2 1792, Ann 1793, Martha 1798

Sarah #2 was baptised on 17 Oct 1786 in West Ilsley d/o George Partridge and Elizabeth nee Poke. The family must have moved to Letcombe Basset when she was a child because her younger siblings were baptised there and her father died there in 1819.
I have the following siblings for Sarah #2
Martha 1777, Mary 1780, Elizabeth 1783, William 1789, James 1791, Richard 1799

There are two marriages in Letcombe Bassett for Sarah Partridges at the right sort of time.
One marries Charles Pembroke (of LB) on 17 Oct 1805, Lydia Pembroke, Elizabeth Partridge & Wm. Painter.
The other marries William Ackrill (of Uffington) on 19 April 1809, wits John Partridge & Wm Painter

I had the Charles Pembroke marriage down for Sarah #1 as they were first cousins, but he would be second cousin to Sarah #2, so still a possibility.
Witnesses to the two marriages don't really help. Both Sarah's had mothers and sisters called Elizabeth. Neither had a father or a brother called John.

Please can anyone help me to sort out which marriage is for which Sarah?

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: What happened to Ed(e)ith nee Rose and John Rainger?
« on: Monday 17 November 25 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
:) What it a typo?

Edith Mintram
Marriage  18 Sep 1757 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire
Spouse   John Rainger
yes, sorry
It was 1757

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: What happened to Ed(e)ith nee Rose and John Rainger?
« on: Monday 17 November 25 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
Edeth's first marriage was too early for the PR to have signatures and witnesses etc, but on her second marriage she signs her name as Edeth, makes a bit of a mess of Mintram. Both she and John Rainger were widowed. One witness is probably a parish official as he witnesses other marriages, the other doesn't seem to be related.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / What happened to Ed(e)ith nee Rose and John Rainger?
« on: Monday 17 November 25 13:30 GMT (UK)  »
Edeth (sic) Rose married Richard Mintrum in Blandford Forum in Dorset on 27 March 1739. They moved to Portsea sometime between 1743 and 1745 according to locations of baptisms and burials of their children. Richard was buried in Portsea on 26 Jan 1755 - no age given on record. Assuming he was born in Dorset, the best candidate I have seen for his baptism is 27 April 1719 in Chideock s/o William and Grace (nee Cox). This would make him about 20 at marriage assuming baptised shortly after birth.
After Richard's death Edith married John Rainger on 18 Sep 1857. I can't find that they had any children. If Edith was a similar age to the Richard Mintrum that I found, she would be about 37 at second marriage. Can anyone find what happened to Edith and John Rainger, please?

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Sussex / Re: Heathfield Marriage info.
« on: Saturday 15 November 25 11:59 GMT (UK)  »
I think that it might be a registry office marriage, the page no. on the index reference is quite high which often indicates a RO. Thomas was much older than his second wife and she had been living with him as housekeeper before their marriage, so a quick, quiet marriage some distance from home is not unusual in this circumstance. If RO you would have to order the certificate.

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Sussex / Re: Heathfield Marriage info.
« on: Saturday 15 November 25 08:37 GMT (UK)  »
Marriage registers before 1 July 1837 do not name the fathers, unless either the bride or groom are under age and they give their permission.

Ian C

I think it's the second marriage in 1863 that Bitzar means.

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Thanks for johns details. Working on what you have posted we seem to be looking for common parents of
1 John born c 1812  place Battersea
2 James born c1819-25 place Lambeth  according to census
3 Thomas born c1814  place Lambeth

If they are related.

SS

We know Thomas and James are brothers (1871 census)

In 1871 Thomas is unmarried and we think that James would have married about 1843-4, based on age of first child and relatively young age of wife Eliza (which is fairly consistent throughout censuses). Therefore both brothers would be unmarried in 1841 and possibly living with parents.

A family that could match
address in 1841 Wootten street, Lambeth
Thomas Williams 48   (b abt 1793) Cooper's journeyman
Susannah Williams 48   (b abt 1793)   
Thomas Williams 24   (b abt 1817) Comedian?
James Williams 21   (b abt 1820) I think it's bookseller's servant
all born in Surrey

Piece 1060, Book 5, Folio 4 Page 2
Although Thomas and James's occupations differ, people change to whatever makes them a living


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