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Australia / Re: Henry George HOSEASON - Tasmania death look up
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 20:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hello MumMum and Dee,
Thank you so much for your help!
Yes, my great uncle Henry George Hoseason is a slippery one. If you search under his name in the digiticised newspapers on NLA you will find he has a police record for fraud. He drops off the Qld state electoral roll in 1938 and appears to have vanished despite having such an unusual surname. 
According to family rumour he married and had a daughter. However I can't find any record in Qld. His spinster sisters (older and younger) died in early 1980s. 
I've been checking the digitised Aust. newspapers regularly in case something comes up. When I noticed a H. Hoseason and possibly wife and child flying to Tasmania in 1941 - thought it could be a lead.
In the UK records, Henry Hoseason born.1910 died.1983 is his first cousin. I'm in touch with several family members in Sunderland, UK.
Cheers CJ
 

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Australia / Re: Henry George HOSEASON - Tasmania death look up
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks MumMum, for looking up those details but its actually his father Henry George Rugg Hoseason that you have found. He was a tentmaker/sailmaker in Sydney, and lived with his wife Annie and two daughters at Mosman.

My missing great uncle is called Henry George Hoseason (b.1902). Last known address was Qld in 1938-39.

Great uncle Henry George Hoseason does not appear to have died in NSW or Qld (I've checked those records). Suspect it was interstate rather than overseas.

Hoping someone is able to look up Tassie records as it looks like a possibility (and I can't access them online).   
Thanks CJ.

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Australia / Henry George HOSEASON - Tasmania death look up
« on: Wednesday 26 January 11 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm trying to track down the death certificate for my great-uncle Henry George HOSEASON (b. 1902 Sunderland, UK. Immigrated to Australia in 1921.)
Have searched NSW, Qld death records plus Ryerson Index with no luck. However a recently added digital newspaper article suggests a H.Hoseason flew to Hobart in 1941.
We suspect he died in 1970s or early 1980s. Parents: Henry Hoseason and Annie Major.
Occ: Henry George HOSEASON worked in 1930s as a car salesman and repairer.

Would be grateful if someone could please look up the Tasmanian death records (not available online) for Henry George HOSEASON? 

Thanks CJ.

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Kent / Re: Lost family - Lovatt/Nesfield/Meldrum in Kent
« on: Monday 27 December 10 21:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Villeneuve27, 
Thanks for replying. I got in touch with the Morley family descendents last year in Murton, UK. It was wonderful to find out what had happened to Stanley Hedley Nesfield after researching for so many years. I'll send you a personal message so my reply is not on a public forum. Cheers CJ

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Durham / Re: Surnames: Hoseason, Hedley, Nesfield, Major
« on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello FrankE,
Thanks for your reply. Sorry its taken so long to respond. My family history research has been on hold due to illness.

I'm sure the William A. Hoseason you found in the 1901 census is my gt-grandfathers eldest brother. I know my gt-grandfather Henry G. R. Hoseason actually ended up hiring several relatives at Speedings - including his younger brother Jack and his father William Hoseason (snr).

Somewhere in the piles of un-identified family photos I also have one tiny photo of a woman identified on the back as  'Aunty Ada' (I think it was taken in the UK in the 1950s) which is obviously his daughter.

A while back, I found Henry George R. Hoseason in the 1901 census in Durham Sunderland (but I must of forgotten to print off the street address as I can't find it ). He was 25, living with his wife  Annie Hoseason (nee Major) and an infant daughter Annie May (who was my gt-aunt May).   

I've been in touch with the widow of another Hoseason researcher who still lives in Sunderland, who was also corresponding with my gt-aunts and grandmother about 30 years ago.  Hopefully this will provide more information. 

There was definately at least one illegitimate child born to my gt-uncle in Sunderland - and also there appears to be some other 'oddities' in the tree which I would like to resolve. Sadly I might be forced to wait for the 1911 (or even a later census) to solve some of the mysteries.

I'm not sure who the George Hoseason - engineer is who you mentioned. But he's probably also a distant relation.

Thanks CJ Thorpe 

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The Lighter Side / Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« on: Wednesday 31 January 07 21:48 GMT (UK)  »

Giggle!  :D

Sorry Cheshire Cat/Keith, I think it is more of an insiders family joke!

I was fascinated gt-granny's prediction came true ... Perhaps it was as a result of a tough life and a knowledge of lots of things. The older generation still refer to my brother as 'canny' and seek him out at family functions for tax, retirement, and financial advice. 

Does the nickname Cheshire Cat mean you have a large grin and a good sense of humor?

Cheers CJ Thorpe
Canberra, Australia

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Durham / Surnames: Hoseason, Hedley, Nesfield, Major
« on: Wednesday 31 January 07 05:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
I'm fairly new to Rootsweb and thought I would post the surnames I am researching in Sunderland. I'm based in Australia so its been more difficult than I expected.

Hoseason - Henry George Rugg Hoseason. (b Dec. 1875 Sunderland, died 1961s Australia) Parents William Hoseason and Elizabeth Hardy. I've had some success chasing Hoseason relatives in Durham, but I'm keen to get in touch with people who worked for his company Speedings Ltd (tent makers) prior to 1922 (when this branch of the Hoseason family immigrated to Australia).  H.G.R Hoseason was a Quaker, but it appears I will need to visit the UK to access the records. He also served as a special constable during WW1. According to family rumour one of his jobs was getting people off the streets during bombing raids. Is there any way to look this up? Last address in Rowlandson Terrace, Sunderland.

There was also a George Taylor living in Sunderland who was a Quaker and friend of the Hoseasons.  Apparently their grand-daughter was called Mrs Crute (in the 1980s). Does anyone know her?   

Major - Annie Major (Henry Hoseason's wife) b. Sept 1877  Parents: William Major and Rachel Mordey. The Major family in Sunderland has been a bit of a dead end. I know she had a sister Martha who worked in the Salvation Army (and sent regular letters to Australia including a photo of their parents graves) and a younger brother who was blind from a child.

Nesfield - Doris Nesfield (b. 1891) and Stanley Hedley (b.1888) married in 1912 in Belvedere, Kent ... although both families lived in Sunderland at the time. Doris had an illegitimate child 'Stanley Hedley Nesfield' in 1908 who its believed was given to a cousin, Annie Lovatt (nee Meldrum) and her husband Henry Lovatt in Belvedere to raise.   

Hedley - Stanley Hedley's father John Watson Hedley appears to have married three times (makes for an interesting family tree) with children from each match.

Would love to hear from anyone also looking at these names.  Good luck for those with dead ends. Hoping I don't have to wait for the 1911 census for answers.  :D

Cheers CJ Thorpe
Canberra, Australia
 
   


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The Lighter Side / Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« on: Wednesday 31 January 07 00:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Have enjoyed reading this thread. There's a few rumours in my family ... mostly which have been  wrong. But they have been amusing. Some may have originated when the families came to Australia to 'dress up' their UK past.

1. My maternal Grandmother says she accidently met her future husband's grandfather in Sunderland prior to immigrating to Australia. This would be difficult as she was born in 1914, and he died in 1906.

2. My gt-grandmother had an illegitimate girl in Britain around 1912, prior to marrying and moving to Australia. According to family rumour the 'girl' was reportedly given to an aunt to raise. However it was a boy! He was born in 1908 (when gt-granny was 16) but he appears to have been raised by the family of a cousin (Lovatts of Belvedere, Kent).

3. Some politicans in the family. Some truth in this. Poynton family had one Australian Senator and two lord mayors in Australia. None so far in the UK. 

4. Unusual rumour... there's lots of engineers in the Hedley family. One part of the family is supposedly related to William Hedley who invented a steam train, the Puffing Billy.  So far unproven, must be a very loose connection. But found theres lots of mariners and marine-related professions from Sunderland.

5. According to rumour, my Gt Uncle came to Australia to learn how to run a cattle property in Queensland. It seems the family paid to send him to Australia for training after he got a household maid pregnant.

But there have been a few family details which were proven correct... a maternal Gt-Granny in Sunderland inheritated money from a wealthy aunt who she lived with for a while, a maternal Gt-grandfather managed Speedings tent making company, then estalished a similar tent production firm in Australia, and a paternal Gt-Grandmother (former shopkeeper) told my mother that her toddler son (my brother) was good with money. This last one still causes much amusement in the family. Her prediction was correct... He became an accountant.     

Cheers CJ Thorpe
Canberra Australia


 


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Kent / Re: Lost family - Lovatt/Nesfield/Meldrum in Kent
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 23:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Josephine,

Thanks, I knew the church existed (Here's a photo)  http://www.nwkfhs.org.uk/belv_c01.htm

But I got the impression that Belvedere was considered part of Erith(?) and has been swallowed by another council juristiction.   

It looks like the Bexley Archives may hold the key! Thanks again.

I'm not sure about the name of the 'Primative Methodist Church' (That's where the Lovatts were married in Sunderland) so I thought there might be a Belvedere branch?  However the town may have been too small in the early 1900's, so they simply joined All Saints.

I'm also chasing some information from Sunderland, Durham about the Hoseasons/ Majors/ Nesfields/ Hedleys so I'll keep an eye out for church registers there - as the City Ark Ancestors website was good. Perhaps there's something similar in Durham.     

Thanks for your help.

Cheers CJ Thorpe.
Canberra, Australia

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