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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Tradesmen - Apprentices
« on: Sunday 27 May 07 02:31 BST (UK)  »
In the 1860's - 70's would a brick layer / stonemason's apprentice have been registered with any organisation ?

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 census lookup Scruton
« on: Saturday 27 January 07 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
Pels

  You are magical

         Pete


Quote from: Pels. on Saturday 27 January 07 08:48 GMT (UK)



This is quite exciting for you!! On the actual return form, under where it says - Standard Hill, this is written:

The spot where the Battle of the Standard was fought!!  :)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0164/


1851 census:
folio 267, page 22

Yorkshire, Northallerton, Brompton

Standard Hill

William Horner, h. mar. 50, Farmer of 64, acres, b. Newsam
Catherine, wife, 50, b. Kirby Fleetham
Mary Ann, dau. 19, Farmers daughter, b. Kirby Wiske
Elizabeth, dau. 15, b. Kirby Wiske
Robert, son, 13, b. Kirby Wiske

Transcribed as Horness this time!  ::) ::)



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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / 1851 census lookup Scruton
« on: Friday 26 January 07 00:51 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for a reference for John Horner, wife possibly Mary and son William 1yo, and or in 1861 with daughter Mary Ellen / Ellen Mary 10yo

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Durham Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census lookup KILBURN
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 10:59 GMT (UK)  »
Jennifer

I would doubt there being that many Kilburn's in Darlington c1841 that would fit the bill as closely as these do, Jane is the right age for a Jane that comes up in 1851 as a housekeeper in Horsemarket Darlington, Mother and Father's ages are close enough ( within 3 years ),

I am beginning to think you may have found my GG grandmother,

Thank You so much,

         Pete

Quote from: JenB on Thursday 25 January 07 10:04 GMT (UK)
With the eye of faith this could be her - could someone else look at the original image please?

HO 107/303/Book 27/Folio 28

(possibly) Fulwell Row, Darlington

John Killburn 50 Ag. Lab, Yes
Mary do, 45, Yes
John do, Joiner Ap, Yes
Jane do, 12, Yes
Eliza do, 8, Yes

Jennifer



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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 Census lookup Scruton / Bedale
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 10:09 GMT (UK)  »
That would be absolutley marvellous, and hopefully Jane Catterick was a Kilburn from either Darlington or West Auckland,

If it's someone else, I may give up and become a Smith or Green or Brown


         Pete


Quote from: Pels. on Thursday 25 January 07 09:55 GMT (UK)


All the Parish records for the Scruton area are kept in the County Archives at Northallerton Pete.

Jane (Nutty 1966) and I have been threatening to go there for some weeks now as a joint venture.  ;)

Whilst there I can check the records for Scruton if you wish - although not too hopeful of a marriage, it will give me the opportunity to hopefully see the death I found for Jane Catterick in 1861.

Kindest regards,

Pels  :)



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Durham Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 census lookup KILBURN
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
jennifer / All

Jane maybe somewhere between 10 - 16,

       Pete

Quote from: JenB on Thursday 25 January 07 08:56 GMT (UK)
What age do you expect them to be?

Jennifer

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Durham Lookup Requests / 1841 census lookup KILBURN
« on: Thursday 25 January 07 08:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Am looking for any reference to Jane Kilburn, John Kilburn, Carters Row, Darlington or of West Auckland ?

  Pete

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 Census lookup Scruton / Bedale
« on: Wednesday 24 January 07 22:41 GMT (UK)  »
Georges birth certificate has blanks for father and occupation, just Jane Kilburn for the mother and the address of 16 Carters Row Darlington, George was married as Kilburn, under fathers name and occupation illigitemate has been recorded,



Quote from: trish251 on Wednesday 24 January 07 22:26 GMT (UK)
Hello Pete

Guy Etchells on rootschat would be the best person to tell you about illegitimacy in UK. I don't think it could be altered by marriage until 1920s - somewhere on here it is discussed.

Did your George Kilburn marry as George Catterick? I hadn't picked that up. I know on the census people seemed to change the surname of children - perhaps because they didn't want the enumerator to know who was illegitimate! but usually on BDM certificates the registered name was used. Do you have the birth certifcate for George Kilburn. This may resolve if his mother was married or who is the father?

Some of our folks did try hard to hide their history. I have just discovered a rather important secret the family hid for  94 years - now a few folks are saying "we were never allowed to talk about that!"

Do hope you find the relationships - Pels has more stamina than me for searching the English indexes!! If she searched Catterick, perhaps you could search for a Jane Kilburn marriage.

Trish

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 Census lookup Scruton / Bedale
« on: Wednesday 24 January 07 21:55 GMT (UK)  »
Trish, Pels

OK, Jane Kilburn has George Kilburn 1853, Jane marrys's George Catterick sometime 1853-1861, Jane dies, Mary Catterick has George Kilburn as a visitor 1861, George Catterick has George K as a stepson 1871,

George K marry's Aug 1874, under fathers name it is marked Illegitimate,

If Jane had had George out of wedlock, then George C marry's her (to make her an honest woman) would George K then have had his name changed to Catterick to avoid the "bastard" tag,

A scroll through the full indexes, I am not looking forward to, but, in order to possibly solve this problem that has been bugging me for nearly 5 years, I now know what I will be doing for the next few hours,

        Pete

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