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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: can someone verify this for me
« on: Friday 20 April 07 04:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jap
The 1841 census in Kirkden, Forfar for Thomas Martin states he was born in the county.
He married Anne Wighton May 1813 in Newtyle. - I have the banns for this.
He died December 1866 aged 76 This would make the birth 1790. His death certificate states his marriage to Anne and signed by his daughter so I know I am on the right track with all that. This is where his parents are listed as being James Martin and Jean Gray
Their 10 siblings are all listed as being born in Kirkden, Newtyle, and Inverarity and Methy.
I need to do a bit more searching into his birth -I really dont have anything solid to verify i have the right Thomas Martin born Glamis 1790. I am in Australia which makes the search more difficult where it comes to newspapers etc.
The family you mentioned may well be his brothers marriage -  ( all down the generations the first 3 sons are all called Thomas James and Charles) There are also Elizabeths, Janes ,Marys ,Annes, but no Hannah - which could well come from the inlaw marriage side. Elizabeth Caithness may have just being staying with them the night of the census andnot a member of the family.
I will have a delve into this and see what I come up with
I have to go away for a week but when I come back I will resume the search
Many thanks again for giving me more angles.
kind Regards
Lorraine.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: can someone verify this for me
« on: Tuesday 17 April 07 22:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jap

Thanks for your reply. Have double checked the entries for Thomas Martin and yes you are right - need to do a bit more research  - I may be barking up the wrong tree.
My train of though is - If Thomas was born in 1790 then more siblings would be around that time - given 10 years either side. I found his death certificate in 1855 onwards and assumed there would be more - but have drawn a complete blank using Jean Gray as the mother. I need to backtrack a bit and look at other Thomas Martins and see if I can find a connection.
Again Thank you for your help - it is so easy to have a one track mind in this game and "pessimism" as you call it keeps you in line  Its good that other people can give you another angle as it can become very frustrating at times.
Good luck with your search
Regards
Lorraine

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: can someone verify this for me
« on: Tuesday 17 April 07 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Hello Jap

Thank you so much for the reply

The Thomas Martin you have listed is infact my ggggrandfather. The dates listed for him are his birth and christening. Because the world seems to be full of James Martins, I am reliant on the mothers name (jean Gray) to make any connection to any other Martins.
My family line has a history of 9 - 15 children in each generation but in this case Thomas is the only one I can find. I will just have to keep searching through martins and see if  I can make a connection
I have seen the disc you are refering to on the IGI and got the same results. Sorry I am still new to this and still learning - does this mean that the ones listed are all connected to a particular James or just any James ?????
Thank you so very much for taking the time to help me
Lorraine.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: can someone verify this for me
« on: Tuesday 17 April 07 06:45 BST (UK)  »
 Re post above - sorry it doesnt seem to want to attach the file. have tried lots of times but says it  its taking too long - anyone have any suggestions what i can do
Thanks
Lorraine

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Angus (Forfarshire) / can someone verify this for me
« on: Tuesday 17 April 07 06:36 BST (UK)  »
can someone please verify that the mothers maiden name on this certificate is  GRAY

I got this from SP. When I put in the mothers maiden name as Gray - no results are found.
if I leave it blank - it produces this. I read it as GRAY !!!!!!
I have been searching for months for information on James Martin and Jean Gray. Thomas is the only sibling I can find.
i would be grateful if someone can look at this. If it is not Gray then this may explain why I cant find anything

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: stormont family from Angus
« on: Sunday 18 March 07 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mrsscouser

I am tracing the Martin family in Angus

In my tree I have a Jane Martin married to James Stormont  who was a ropemaker. They married in Arbroath on 3rd December 1847

I do not have birth or death details for him but the 1861 census for arbroath lists them as
Jane      40
James   40
Ann       12
William   10
James      8
Jane         2 or 4 ( cant make it out clearly)
Jessie       2months

Jane died June 20th 1893 and is listed as wife to James so assume he was still alive at that time.

Dont know if this will help any

Lorraine

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Johnston Grocers
« on: Sunday 18 March 07 08:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kathleen

Unfortunately Isabel Anderson does not fit into my tree.  Thanks for that anyway

Lorraine

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Johnston Grocers
« on: Saturday 17 March 07 12:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kathleen

have a look at this web page. It gives the history of the Lord provost and chambers in Dundee. George is mentioned in the list. Looks like a good little booklet you can print of and add to your history.

www.dundeecity.gov.uk/publications/heraldic.pdf

ps it takes a minute or 2 to load.

Lorraine

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Johnston Grocers
« on: Saturday 17 March 07 12:10 GMT (UK)  »
Wow you really do have a lot of history in Dundee !!!!

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