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Lincolnshire / Re: Cardell Tydd st Giles area
« on: Friday 09 June 17 18:24 BST (UK) »
John Cardell, 1785, Edward Cardells father died 1828 Tydd St Mary, presume he had been a soldier overseas.
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I still believe the scenario I listed before is correct.Possibly and probably correct but she registered her son Charles as a Newman who then changed to Banyard who then in census states he is born London until the 1911 census where he puts Norfolk, dies Sheffield 1923
Elizabeth Beckett bp.28/11/1810 Reymerston, dau. Wm and Phoebe (nee Good)
Louisa Beckett bp.7/2/1819 Reymerston, ditto
So these 2 definitely sisters.
Elizabeth Beckett married Charles Banyard 5/2/1833 Reymerston - their apparent only child, Charles b.16/5/1833, bp.2/5/1833 East Dereham.
By 1841 Elizabeth is living with James Newman and has taken his name. Her son Charles is with James Newman's parents. Her husband Charles, a Horse Keeper, is living alone in East Dereham.
In 1842 James Newman and said Elizabeth, still in Downham have a daughter Elizabeth who is registered and baptised as Newman. Legally, as her parents were not married, she should have been registered under her mothers given name, and legally this was Banyard.
If the vicar who married them asked some pertinent questions it might have emerged that her parents had never been married and thus, correctly, he listed her as Elizabeth Banyard - no wonder the poor woman was confused. Legally a Banyard but registered and baptised a Newman (name of her actual father).Can't figure out what happened to Charles Banyard, senior. He was not the Charles Banyard died and buried 1845 - this was another one (shown as a Gent) who was married to a Sarah at East Dereham and listed as a widow in 1851.
Regardless of the shenanigans along the way, your Elizabeth was the daughter of James Newman and Elizabeth (nee Beckett) who was legally still a Banyard at the time of her birth.
Annette
Hello all!
I would be grateful for a lookup in the any or all of the 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census for:
George PEACE born 1795 Sheffield
He is the son of Samuel (dec 1833) and Ann (dec 1835) and a sibling between John and Charles, and according to information I have found, he died 1862 in Sheffield.
I believe this George is probably the father of my Charles PEACE b 1822,who on his marriage lines, stated his father was a George PEACE, file cutter,
I am also looking for my Charles PEACE in 1841 and 1851.
I do already have him on the 1861 and 1871 with his wife Ruth and children. In those Censii in Ecclesall Bierlow, Nether Hallam it indicates Charles was born around 1822 in Sheffield (one says in Crookes). He was a file cutter. I don't yet havebirth certificatebaptism or mother's name for him.
Many thanks for any help!
Cheers
AMBLY