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 :)Hi everyone, sorry taken so long to get back to you.  The mother who is said to have had a Cranch child to one of the Cranch men while they were living in Cambridge was a Caroline Holloway or Holloday.  The lady at the Cambridge museum when my sister and I visited it gave us that information.  As for my ggrandfather Thomas Norman Cranch commonly known as Norman, the newspaper article about him had my sister and I laughing our faces off.  Apparently he was a character - he took his ex-fiance to court to ask for the return of some gifts that he had given her.......in particular his father's trunk that he had supposingly lend to her......in turn his ex-fiance sued him for the money he had borrowed off her......in which he didn't repay when he promised he would...she explained in depth his behaviour.......demanding money off her and not showing up until he needed some more...then he would be lovey dovey..........when he wouldn't get his way resort to tantrums........threatening to kill himself...........a real dramatic person.  The Court room was filled with women laughing their heads off..........including the Judge himself.  It was so humorous, but so funny.  What's even funnier is our Granddad is so much like his father - hence father like son.  My whole family thought is was a hoot.........can't help but love them.  Bellbird how do I send you a copy of the will etc?  Also my Grandfather is Norman's only child that we know of.  His birth name was Bernard Royce Rowe (mother Alma Dulcie Rowe), he was adopted to the Butler family.  At first his name was Bernard Royce Butler, then in the 1970s he found out he was adopted and had his name changed by deed poll to Anthony John Butler - he just recently passed away on the 27 November 1910 just before his 90th birthday.  He has left a great legacy behind. He is not the child spoken about above - that child is another one......never no it may be Ggdad Norman's.......hopeful we find out....keep up the good work everyone - if I can help let me know....Until next time.....

Concerning Anne Muriel Cranch and William Robert Norman WARREN, my sister and I are in dispute because I don't think she belongs in this family but my sister thinks otherwise and had one of those feelings that wouldn't go away concerning her - you never know she may be one of the grandchildren.  Why I am in dispute with my sister over this is because I have a copy of Elizabeth Cranch's (nee Webb) will and it states clearly how many children there are and it names them and Anne does not feature in the will.  What I can try and do is get a copy of her birth or death certificate to clarity it.  But I'm sure I am right because she does not feature in any of the information I have on the family. 

There is also meant to be portraits of all Samuel and Elizabeth themselves and their children - so it would be interesting to see if they still exist.

Hope this helps, will try to check in everyday, but am in the middle of an assignment at university so if I'm out of touch thats why.

Lei-Anne