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Northumberland / Re: Belford Presbyterian records online?
« on: Friday 13 June 25 13:41 BST (UK)  »
Since I wrote my earlier post I’ve found this on FreeReg related to the Scotch Church in West St in Belford.

Birth of John 23 Oct 1808
Baptism 30 Oct 1808
F = John
M = Margaret
Abode = Newlands


There were other Johnson men with young families around the same time including Adam Johnson at Easington. Names of children very similar to yours so may be related.

Val

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Northumberland / Re: Belford Presbyterian records online?
« on: Monday 09 June 25 21:19 BST (UK)  »
I’ve had a good search through the Presbyterian and Parish records for Belford. It’s always wise to check both as parents sometimes used both, depending upon circumstances at the time, whichever was more convenient and it could change between generations.
First of all John Johnson and Margaret Gradon were married at Kyloe Church not Doddington as you mention at one point. Kyloe  Church  closed a long time ago and is now a private house but existing records are held at Berwick Archives in the Library(open Wed and Thur only). The parents may not have been strict Presbyterians as they married in an Anglican Church. Many Presbyterians took advantage of living near the Border and hopped over to Coldstream or Lamberton

The baptisms of their children do not appear in the Belford Erskine Church (also now closed). I checked transcripts for 1793-1820 published by Berwick Archives. Unfortunately I seem to have mislaid the microfiche of the Belford Scotch Church so could not check it directly but I believe they are included in FamilySearch and none of your Johnsons  appeared on that website apart from two burials at Belford Parish Church of children who died as infants. I could not find them in the Parish Church baptisms. I also looked in Warenford Presbyterian Baptisms but no luck there.

Not everyone was baptised. I’ve managed to find very few baptisms for my Presbyterian ancestors, possibly because their registers did not survive as well as the Anglican ones.

I did find the baptism of a John Jackson in the Spittal Presbyterian Register on 17 March 1773 with father James and mother Ann. Is that a possibility?  I also noticed that a Thomas Johnson and wife Alice had a child named Adam in 1819 and wondered if they were connected to your line.

I’m sorry I haven’t been able to find anything new. If I come across anything relevant I’ll certainly get in touch.

Val

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Northumberland / Re: Belford Presbyterian records online?
« on: Monday 26 May 25 21:49 BST (UK)  »
I may be able to help you. I live in Belford and am familiar with the records of the Scotch Church (as it was known) in West st and Erskine Pres Church in Nursery Lane. There is no Erskine Street. I transcribed the final baptismal register of the latter. If you can clarify the info you are looking for I may have it in the microfiches which I have, otherwise I will look it up on my weekly visits to Berwick Record Office. Do you have any more info on the parents, birthplaces, marriage, maiden name of mother, etc ?

Do you know if the family was definitely resident in Belford during the time in question? There were several Presbyterian churches in the area if the family were ag labs and moved around. There are still Johnson families in Belford.

There was also a third Pres Church in Belford but no registers have survived. All 3 churches have closed now. I helped with a project on the Erskine Church a few years ago and a booklet was produced. It may still be available so if you are interested let me know.

I hope I can help you. I also have details of irregular border marriages which most Pres. couples had during a certain period.

Best wishes,
Val

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Is there anyone out there with an ancestor named Thomas, Robert, John, or  William Glass who disappears from Ross & Cromarty late 1600s or early 1700s ? I’m looking for someone with such a name who settled in North Northumberland and possibly worked as a shepherd? Family legend says that’s how my Glass line arrived in this region. It is not a Border name and was far more common in the Highlands especially in Perthshire, Aberdeenshire, Inverness-shire but family legend promotes Ross & Cromarty as the original homeland.

Can anyone help me on this longstanding quest, please?

Val

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My 3xgrt grandfather Thomas Davis born about 1815 in Glamorgan moved to Northumberland before 1833 and worked as a miner in collieries around Cramlington, Seghill, Cowpen area. He died of pneumonia in 1847 At Monkwearmouth Shore in Co.Durham while his wife and children were living in Cramlington/Blyth area.

Was there a likely reason for his move to Northumberland? I’m assuming he was a miner in Glamorgan before his move. I’m interested to know if there particular incidents in Glamorgan collieries around the 1820-30 period which preceded his move. He seems to have moved with his brother David but it’s always possible he came as a child with his parents.

I haven’t attempted to find his baptism with a name like Thomas Davis born in Glamorgan as this seems too daunting but wondered if anyone else has coal miner ancestors from Glamorgan who made a similar move to Northumberland around that time who might be able to make suggestions .

All help gratefully received!

Val

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My 3xgrt grandfather Thomas Davis born about 1815 in Glamorgan moved to Northumberland before 1833 and worked as a miner in collieries around Cramlington, Seghill, Cowpen area. He died of pneumonia in 1847 At Monkwearmouth Shore in Co.Durham while his wife and children were living in Cramlington/Blyth area.

Was there a likely reason for his move to Northumberland? I’m assuming he was a miner in Glamorgan before his move. I’m interested to know if there particular incidents in Glamorgan collieries around the 1820-30 period which preceded his move. He seems to have moved with his brother David but it’s always possible he came as a child with his parents.

I haven’t attempted to find his baptism with a name like Thomas Davis born in Glamorgan as this seems too daunting but wondered if anyone else has coal miner ancestors from Glamorgan who made a similar move to Northumberland around that time who might be able to make suggestions .

All help gratefully received!

Val

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Europe / Re: Tracing descendants of Italian POW
« on: Wednesday 12 March 25 21:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, Aguella. Good suggestions which I’ll try.

Belfordian

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Europe / Re: TRACING DESCENDANTS OF ITALIAN POW
« on: Tuesday 11 March 25 19:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your suggestion, Mckha489. Worth a try!

Belfordian

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Europe / Re: TRACING DESCENDANTS OF ITALIAN POW
« on: Tuesday 11 March 25 18:31 GMT (UK)  »
BMFD data should of course read BMD dta!

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