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Hi Ken and Richard

In the 1930 census living at 173-31 104 Rd, Jamaica, Queens, New York (Charles (Carl), Theodora and Richard are living at 175-13) is Frederick (Friedrich?) Mampel age 31 his wife Barbara age 28 and daughters Marianne age 9 and Gerta (Gerda?)
Also living in the household is Friedrich's sister Ida Mampel age 40.

They were all born Germany and immigration year for all of them is shown as 1928.

Are Friedrich and Ida, the brother and sister of Carl? At the very least, they are bound to be relatives....    


I haven't found them in the passenger lists arriving in 1928 (+/- 1) but there is an entry for Barbara, Marianne and Gerda returning to the US in 1935, relatives name is Friedrich Mampel, so he obviously didn't travel at this time.


Ken, can you give some names of your Mampel's....


Agnes

It's been years, Ida and Fred (Fritz) is Carl's sister and brother my great aunt and uncle, Barbara is Fred's wife, Marianne and Gertie are their daughters Carl's nieces. Marianne married  Keith Klos who worked for the L.I. Press. Marianne, Keith, Fritz, and Babbett (Barbara), lived on Lexington Ave. in Franklin Square, NY on Long Island. Marianne had no children Gertie also was married and lived on Long Island and had two or three kids. Last time I saw any of them was the '70s. So, they all connect as my direct bloodline.

my grandfather Carl Otto Gunther Mampel had a sister named Anna but I never met her...not all his, I think dozen siblings, came to America...I just really knew his brother Fritz Mampel who married Barbara and lived on Lexington Ave. in Franklyn Square, NY...that's on L.I...they had two daughters...Mary Anne, and Gerti or Gertrude....
My Dad, Charles Andrew Richard Mampel, was Carl's only child...Richard was another of Carl's brothers.

Hi Richard, just checked in today. Have not found pic of Lehman/Kate Frey yet. Good pic you have. Talk to you later. Your cousin Ken

Thank you Agnes, but we can still use your help too.

Right..........


This George Frey III whom I talked to this morning lived in Richmond Hill, Queens in year 1927 and for a few more years, coincidently MY FATHER BORN IN RICHMOND HILL IN 1920...doesn't recall Lehmann Family, but he said never met or knew whole family. George has to kids Dale and Gail both girls.

BIGGY---Hilda Marie mix-up!!!! George III, I talked to explained…both his Grandmother AND Mother were named Hilda-Marie!!!!! They called one Hilda and one Marie to denote the difference between the two, but BOTH George I and George II wives had the exact same name Hilda Marie Frey!!!!!

He has an Aunt named Gladys married to Ernest Trump late in life and lived at 10457 89th Ave. Richmond Hill. No kids.

George III has a brother named Roy Frey alive and well, whom I will call. No kids for Roy.

He had an Uncle Reginald Frey, deceased he remembers from around 1940 who lived in Woodhaven, Queens with Wife Freda they got divorced. Had business, a sporting equipment store in on Maiden Ln. in Manhattan. Had a son named Reggie Jr. and a girl doesn't remember name.

Had another Uncle Alfred Frey who lived on 107th St. Richmond Hill with Wife named Florence and kids Alfred Jr. and Leo. Alfred Frey came U.S. around WW1 from UK. (Majority of Frey’s came to U.S. around same time the story is). They have kids...he doesn’t remember names.

Shaw WAS originally Schum, why’d he change it? He owned a Pawn Shoppe in the UK and because the name Schum was German and being German wasn’t great, he changed his name to Shaw to do business!!!

John Shaw, he kept Shaw name and was George III Uncle in Elmhurst, Queens

George I, the Grandfather, was a Butcher and owned his own shop.

Gladys is George III Aunt, his Mother’s sister.

Fred Breuninger is George III Uncle Fred married the Elizabeth or Aunt Lizzie (he remembers them).

Adolf or Adolph could be a middle name of George I or II, he doesn’t know.

George says he really doesn't remember Aunt's to well or as well as Uncles. Many lived right around him.

This guy George is on the ball for 81.
 
Richard, this means George III….. is my REAL FULL second cousin once removed since George I and Kate are Brother and Sister!!!!!!