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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Yesterday at 09:29 »
found this:
at St Dunston and All Saints, Stepney, London. Burial 30-05-1751,
Mary wife of Joseph,  aged 49 (=b c1702)
So closing in on the Cross family  ::)
(sorry, I cant figure out how to attatch a crop of the image ???)


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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Tuesday 15 July 25 10:35 BST (UK)  »
So possibly the best candidate is

Quote from: petey22 on Tuesday 15 July 25 08:15 BST (UK)
Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726 St James, Piccadilly, Westminster. parent: Joseph & Mary
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Totally agree, fantastic !!!  ;D

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Tuesday 15 July 25 08:15 BST (UK)  »
Searching Ancestry and Family search.com there are 48 Joseph Rogers's born between 1720 and 1727, six of whom have father also named Joseph:

Joseph Rogers bap 21-08-1720 St Leonard, Yorkshire. parents Joseph & unknown
Joseph Rogers bap 17-04-1721 St Mary, Whitechapel, Middx. parents: Joseph & Elizabeth
Joseph Rogers bap 25-08-1723 Melton, Hampshire. parents: Jos & Mary
Joseph Rogers bap 11-03-1723 St Botolph, Aldgate, London. parents Jos & Sarah
Joseph Rogers bap 20-11-1725  ::) Stanhope, Durham. parents: Joseph & unknown
Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726 St James, Piccadilly, Westminster. parent: Joseph & Mary

of these 6, 3 are born London (none born Norfolk), so these 3 look to be the best candidates.
Not really sure where to go from here  ???

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Monday 14 July 25 10:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: jonwarrn on Sunday 08 June 25 16:22 BST (UK)
Looking for "joseph rogers" just in UK / England / Norfolk in the 1700's produces a lot of results (some may be on different pages/images in the same document). This is also because Norfolk records on FS are mainly open to view at home.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.fullName=%22joseph%20rogers%22&c.recordYear1=on&f.recordYear0=1700&c.recordPlace1=on&f.recordPlace0=9&c.recordPlace2=on&f.recordPlace1=9%2CEngland&c.recordPlace3=on&f.recordPlace2=9%2CEngland%2CNorfolk

I spent the weekend wading through each and every document extracting any information regarding Joseph's whereabouts. A quick summary:

1725 - birth - unknown, born most probably in Norfolk († in 1806 aged 81 = 1725)
1750 - Heigham, Norfolk (marriage to Elizabeth Rippingale)
1750 - 1774 - Norfolk
1775 - Knapton, Norfolk
1776 - Swaffield, Norfolk
1777 (sept) - Swaffield, Norfolk
1777 (nov) - Kidwelly, Carmathan  ???
1784 - London (marriage to Susanna Ingram)
1786 - 1795 - Pinner, Middlesex
1806 - Swaffham, Norfolk (place of death, aged)

His eldest son, Harmer Rogers of Woodbridge, Essex, is mentioned between 1793 and 1795.
By stating that Harmer is Josephs eldest son implies one or more other sons,,,,,,,  ::)

The mention of hometown being Kidwelly in the county of Carmathan, came as a suprise  :P
Anyway, the timeline grows  ;D

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Monday 14 July 25 09:20 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Friday 11 July 25 08:16 BST (UK)
Norfolk Family History Society
transcription - Swaffam

Buried 17 November 1806 Joseph Rogers age 81. Surgeon. Married
  thus birth year = 1725  ???

This kinda contradicts the Norfolk Chronicle, 26 nov 1806: 'Yesterday se' night died at Swaffham, aged 84. Joseph Rogers, Gent. Formerly a surgeon and Apothecary of this city'
thus year of birth = 1722

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Tuesday 08 July 25 16:12 BST (UK)  »
What do we really know about Joseph Rogers ?

His death 17-11-1806 states that he died aged 84 which gives a birth of 1722. It also mentions that he was a Surgeon and Apothecary of Swaffham Norfolk. Incidentally, next to his name on his will there is D.D (Doctor of Divinity?)

First marriage to Elizabeth Rippingale at Heigham, Norfolk, 16-08-1750 and birth of daughter Katherine 16-08-1752, St Andrew Norwich, (Kathrine's date of death unknown)

Second marriage to Susanna Ingram at London, St Lawrence, Guildhall, 09-10-1784.

Birth of his 4 daughters at Pinner, Middlesex, 1786 - 1791.

His death in 1806 in Norfolk (presumably Swaffham)

The beginnings of a nice little-time line with some large gaps, but no real clue to where he was born? Swaffham, Norfolk somewhere else, London or Pinner?  ???



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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 12:51 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ..claire.. on Sunday 05 November 23 13:54 GMT (UK)
Hi
From one of the posts about Joseph's marriage to Susanna it would seem that he was a widower.

There is a marriage in Norwich c1750 (where he was practising) to an Elizabeth. One of the children I found to this marriage was a Catherine.

A newspaper report c1820's was a death notice for a Catherine Elizabeth Hardy, an elderly lady whose father was named as the late Joseph Rogers Esq. formerly of Swaffham, Norfolk.

Have you tried in the Norfolk area looking for a birth - there is a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's who is a Baker, and could possibly be his father.
Claire

There is a marriage entry:
Name   Julien Hardy
Record Type   Mariage (Marriage)
Marriage Date   26 sept. 1786 (26 Sep 1786)
Marriage Place   Melesse, Ille-et-Vilaine, France, Bretagne
Spouse   
Catherine Roger

 ???

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ..claire.. on Sunday 29 October 23 00:15 BST (UK)

He dies in Swaffham in Norfolk and was buried there on November 17th 1806 aged 81 yrs and was a surgeon.  So looking for a birthdate c1725.


The newspaper article in the Norfolk Chronicle, 26 nov 1806 reads: ' Yesterday se' nnight died at Swaffham, aged 84, Joseph Rogers, Gent formerly a surgeon and apothecary of this city' .  So aged 84 in 1806 gives a birth year of 1722.

I am attempting to discover the parents and possible siblings of Joseph Rogers c1722.
Searching for a Joseph Rogers born or baptised somewhere in Norfolk yields no immediate candidates ???  does anyone have any tips? Claire mentioned there being a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's, a baker and a possible candidate as Joseph jnr's Father, but try as I may I cant find any mention of him,,,,

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« on: Sunday 01 June 25 14:57 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ..claire.. on Sunday 05 November 23 13:54 GMT (UK)
Hi

From one of the posts about Joseph's marriage to Susanna it would seem that he was a widower.

There is a marriage in Norwich c1750 (where he was practising) to an Elizabeth. One of the children I found to this marriage was a Catherine.

A newspaper report c1820's was a death notice for a Catherine Elizabeth Hardy, an elderly lady whose father was named as the late Joseph Rogers Esq. formerly of Swaffham, Norfolk.

Have you tried in the Norfolk area looking for a birth - there is a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's who is a Baker, and could possibly be his father.

Claire

Hi Claire,
thanks for your contribution  ;D Indeed Joseph was a widower and I have played about with this on and off since you posted your findings. I found the 1850 marriage you mention to Elizabeth Rippingale (or Rippingull) at Heigham, Norfolk. I have searched for her demise/burial (1752 -1784) and have a number of possibilities but nothing to say which one  ???

The newspaper obituary you mention is a great find! I have now found it too on IGI (Norfolk Chronical 09 aug 1834) but unfortunately it is not viewable  :( so frustrating ! that would be fascinating to read. The baptism of Catherine at St. Anderews, Norwich on 26th aug 1752 ties in nicely although she does suddenly acquires a middle name for her obituary.
I shall plod on  ::)

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