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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Re: English Tiffin census look-up please
« on: Saturday 25 October 25 18:33 BST (UK)  »
there is a marriage between Samuel Tiffen and Sarah Hart on 28-09-1791 at Great Waldingfield, Suffolk. Do you have any other information? a location would be great

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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Friday 24 October 25 17:01 BST (UK)  »
Minutes of Norfolk and Norwich Hospital 13 Jan 1773

“Mr Rogers resigned his appointment of Surgeon to the Hospital on account of ill-health (2 years’ service)”

Now that is a really nice find!
In 1773 most of the children would have been in their teens or in their early 20's, curiously no mention of wife Elizabeth. Joseph thus retires as Surgeon and presumably regains his health to start practising law in 1775 (at least I am assuming he becomes some kind of lawyer from the many mentions/documents on Family search?)

incidently I came across this document below (sorry if it has already been noted) It does mention his wife Elizabeth many times, so I intend to search as many documents I can find to see if there is some kind of pattern with this that the mention of his wife suddenly stops ,,,, who knows  ::)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS62-7QHX?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers%2CRogers%2CJoseph%2CSurgeon&lang=nl&groupId=

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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 20:57 BST (UK)  »

yes indeed, the likeliest candidate, but as always, difficult to prove for certain. Sorry for my lack of conviction on this, but on previous occasions, using the same methods and being 100% certain,,, I have been proven wrong in the past. I do intend to readress this at some point using methods I have learned from roots-chat friends such as yourself.
I havent read up on Kidwelly as of yet and do find it curious that another Elizabeth Rogers was buried at the same place a year earlier in 1776, so a good point you make with regard to a Rogers family connection somewhere. When I return home, I shall look at all Rogers trees I can find in that area to search for a connection,,,, thanks for that idea  :)

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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 13:57 BST (UK)  »

Trying to find and prove the demise of Elizabeth has been driving me crazy  :P

there are many possibilities, the Elizabeth Rogers death in 1777 at Laugharne, Carmathenshire is a big coincidence.

I have narrowed down the possibilities in Norfolk down to 3 candidates illiminating: married to another mans name, infants, widows and burials whereby the age is not correct, unfortunately the place of burial each time is not encouraging:
i. buried 15-09-1764 Gissing
ii. buried 09-07-1766 Weasenham
iii. buried 06-09-1773 Frettenham

The list of Elizabeth Rogers' buried in London is just too long. The Elizabeth buried 21-07-1782 @ St. Brides suggested by Ili1133 is a nice possibility being 2 years before the second marriage of Joseph but there are other such burials listed in the London area.
@ Ili1133 Indeed a non conformist burial is also an option.

The facts give us Joseph and Elizabeth living in Norfolk born (and bred?) although I am still unsure as to Joseph being born London or Norfolk  ??? For some reason they move to Wales (in 1777 their eldest child would be 17) with an Elizabeth Rogers being conveniently buried in 1777 (did they move to Wales for health reasons)

After 1777 Joseph goes dark until he pops up again in Londen for his second marriage. As Ili1133 mentions, the answer could lie in Josephs whereabouts in this period?

Oh well, ramble over, back to the drawing board  ::)

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Norfolk / Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 10:10 BST (UK)  »
I have now also checked for other possible offspring of Joseph and Elizabeth:
i. Elizabeth Rogers, bap 19-05-1751, Old Meeting (Independent) Norwich
ii. Katherine Rogers, bap 16-08-1752, St Andrew, Norwich
iii. John Rogers, bap 05-11-1753, St Andrew, Norwich
iv. Richard Rogers, bap 08-10-1754, St Andrew, Norwich
v. Diana Anna Rogers, bap 30-11-1755, St Giles, Norwich
vi. Joseph Rogers, bap 16-01-1756/7, St Giles, Norwich
vii. Susanna Elizabeth Rogers, bap 27-08-1760, St Andrew, Norwich
  ( Susanna Elizabeth Rogers, burial 30-08-1760, St Andrew, Norwich)

i. Curious that the baptism takes place in an Old meeting house (Independent) .The actual baptism entry reads: ' Elizabeth daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Rogers (of Wrentham) bap 19-05-1753. Wrentham being just accoss the border in Suffolk  ???

v and vi. Not so sure, why the sudden move to another Church? St. Anrew doesnt look very far from St. Giles.

vii. I believe that Susanna and Elizabeth are one daughter with a double name, at least it looks that way on the actual baptism register with what looks like an Elizabeth being added between and above Susanna Rogers with an upside down v below between and below.


Please, did we manage to confirm that Diana Anna c 1755 and Joseph c1756/7 both baptized at St. Giles, Norwich were actually of the same family?

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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Monday 06 October 25 11:52 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, jonwarm  :)

He is mentioned in the 1714 Norfolk voters list living in Buxton. I'm trying to find Henry Rippingall junior, born c. 1690.

This book confirms that Henry Rippingall, the Aylsham attorney, had two children, and that they could have been fathered by Christopher Layer  :o ;D

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Norfolk_Antiquarian_Miscellany/uUIuAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22rippingall%22+%22aylsham%22&pg=RA1-PA64&printsec=frontcover

Great find! Have been trying to read the rest of the page to get the context of the remark.
Its really turning into an interesting story  ::)


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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Tuesday 30 September 25 09:12 BST (UK)  »
indeed a good find!!!
It seems that son Harmer Rogers c1753 and wife Elizabeth Quintin (married 28-10-1771) follow parents to Carmathenshire,,,,, curious

This also narrows it down to the town of Kidwelly which is just across the bay from Laugharne. By road 23 miles and as the crow flies 5 miles away.

Its getting very interesting  :)

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Norfolk / Re: Elizabeth Rippingall
« on: Sunday 28 September 25 11:38 BST (UK)  »
On Googlebooks it is possible to search 'The Gentlemen's magazine and historical chronicle'. Obituaries are often mentioned, I shall take a browse  ;D

also here
https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/serial?id=gentlemans

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