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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Markhams of Bubwith & Wressle
« on: Sunday 06 February 11 15:21 GMT (UK)  »
As skm as stated I am an East Yorkshire Markham having been born in Hessle. My father, Walter James Markham was born in Hull but his father was from Ludford Magna, Lincolnshire.

Victor

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 25 October 09 00:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: georgensteve2 on Friday 04 September 09 23:46 BST (UK)
Trust me, i'm related and asked my great aunt, grand daughter of george rushton.

Steve

I presume your great Aunt is either Maureen or Vivian Hoyles? Thanks for that photo of George and Gertrude you put on this chat list. I downloaded that and sent a copy to my niece, who printed it out and passed it on to my sister who in turn passed it on to another Great Aunt of yours...Gillian Hoyles. Gillian married my nephew Robert Museth. They don't have a computer hence the roundabout route of the photo.

I saw my sister today who told me Gillian is absolutely delighted to have a photo of her grand parents and has framed it. So I am passing on my thanks to you for this.

Do you have any idea as to when the photo was taken? My sister thinks it was late 1930's or early 40's (by the clothes they were wearing)

Do you have any more photos of George and Gertrude Rushton. I am sure Gillian would like to have a copy of these. My niece says that Gillian looks just like Gertrude. If you do have any more photos I think it may be best to send them direct to me (if you are prepared to) I am not sure how we can send private messages on this rooteschat. I will give you my email address if you would like it as we do appear to have the same relatives on our trees

Victor

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Elizabeth is George's step mother. His mother is Harriet Weston, who died in 1899, and George's father married Elizabeth Barnes on 28 Dec 1900. I have the marriage certificate.

Elizabeth was a widow having previously married Stephen Washington who died in 1894

I did say before that Elizabeth's children were listed as Step Children to George (sr)

I have the census of 1861, 1881, 1891 and 1901 for the Rushton family

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 20:24 BST (UK)  »
I have carried put some further checking.

I can now confirm that Rose Chell is George Rushton (the footballer) wife.

The fact that he is listed in the 1911 census as a chauffeur does not exclude his abilities to play football for Swindon Town. Footballers in those days earned very little money. Also George has two families the other being his children by Gertrude in Hull

The clue is in the 1911 census which lists Jacob Rushton as brother of George aged 16. Jacob is listed in the 1901 census age 6 with his father George and mother Elizabeth. I have details of George (the footballers father) as having married Elizabeth Washington. In the 1901 census are listed step children Robert and Beatrice Washington as well as Jacob

So we have here

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George Rushton age 30 Head Occupation Chauffeur
Rose Annie Rushton age 30 wife Occupation Home Maker
Gladys Maud Rushton age 18 Daughter School
Jacob Rushton Brother age 16 Mould Maker (potters)
Address 4 Gordon St, Stoke upon Trent

2 Gertrude Bell (or Rushton depends on how she appears in the census)
Emily Grace Bell (or Rushton) age 4
Jane Rushton aged 2
Rebecca Rushton age 1

All that is needed now is to find Gertrude's family in the 1911 census

I have done a search but have not found anything and not bought any credits (not sure if I have the right Gertrude or whether it will be Bell or Rushton) I will try and visit the National Archives and check the census there. Unfortunately I am unable to do it this coming week

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 18:13 BST (UK)  »
Let me clarify things a bit.

Until now I had assumed George (the footballer) had married Rose Chell. You have found that this is not the case from the 1911 census. I have checked this census but couldn't find the footballer there.

Since George did not marry Rose and on his marriage certificate, when he married Gertrude, he was described as a widower. I have a copy of this certificate. Gertrude was also described as a widow. This means they both had been married before. One reason why they could not marry before 1925 could be because James was  alive and either he refused to agree to a divorce or was a Catholic so she had to wait until he had died. There is a death for James aged 58 in 1924. Whether this was Gertrude's James we may never know.

What I need to do know is try and find George in the 1911 census and also Gertrude as either Bell/Foulds or Rushton. I will do another search for George in the 1901 census

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 16:55 BST (UK)  »
That is great you have just confirmed that the George I had was not married to Rose Hannah. That is the sort of information I had been looking for so will now change the details.

I do find one teeny problem with this. The census gives George and Rose age 30 and their daughter age 18 which means her parents were 12 years old when she was born. I think this should read 8 FreeBMD shows a birth of 1903

We now need to find who is George's first wife. The info on the marriage certificate could be false and because of all the children he pretended to be a widower unless he had to provide evidence

As you say there are 2 George's. The football details are correct and we just need to find the right George. looks as if I will have to delete all the Chell names I have.

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 14:08 BST (UK)  »
George Rushton 11 Sept 1911 Susannah's Terrace, Bean Street father George Ruston, Professional footballer. Mother Gertrude Rushton formerly Foulds

Jane Ruston 24 June 1909 131 Bean Street rest as above

Joseph Ruston 26 Aug 1921 3 Harriet's Terrace. George Rushton, Dock Labourer. Gertrude as before

From Joseph's  birth certificate George lived at 3 Harriet's Terrace until his death in 1964

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 13:51 BST (UK)  »
That is strange.

If the father's name is not recorded then her surname will be Bell which is on the YorkshireBMD and registered in Myton

I have copies of the following birth certificates George(1880) George (1911), Jane (1909) and Joseph (1921)

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Staffordshire / Re: Rushton and Chell families of Longton
« on: Sunday 06 September 09 12:51 BST (UK)  »
Not to worry. Like I said before I am not 100% certain and until there is more evidence I will keep it as it is.

I have also said that I have a new contact doing the Chell family. This is the first time I have someone on the Chell side and I hope she can come up trumps. I have not had a response from her for a couple of weeks now. Hope she does get back to me.

I have also said we need to look at the 1911 census. That, hopefully, can provide us with some proof.

I have checked FreeBMD, YorkshireBMD and StaffordshireBMD for the birth of Emily Grace Rushton. She is not listed in any of the lists. Until we can find her birth certificate we do not know who her mother is..just checked YorkshireBMD...she is Emily Grace BELL...not George's daughter at all

I have put together details of Georges playing career which came from Swindon Town records
Playing career:   Leek Broughs, Burslem Port Vale, Barrow, Burslem Port Vale, Brighton and Hove Albion, Hull City, SWINDON TOWN, Brentford, SWINDON TOWN, Goole Town.

I have prepared a biography of George and can send it to you if you contact me direct at victor@markham.me.uk

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