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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Monday 22 September 25 18:11 BST (UK)  »
Oh, that is excellent! Thanks so much. I didn't have any of that information.
So Margaret's parents must be James Gray and Helen Swan as I suspected. It's always fun when a hunch is confirmed ;-) Robert's parents Robert Hendry and Ann King. (in case anyone else is researching that family!)
Before John and Ann, Robert sr. and Margaret Gray had Robert King Hendry, James Gray Hendry, William Hendry (1853-1859), Helen S (Swan?) Hendry.

As always,
ard

PS I have now found Margaret's birth record - On Scotland's People, her mother's surname is transcribed as Levan!


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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Monday 22 September 25 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply, Lodger.

So I am related to your nephews then! Archibald Halliday (who m. Marion Penman) was the brother of my 4x great grandfather Robert Halliday 1781-1851 (who m. Margaret Williamson). In some censuses the two families lived very close to one another.

There appear to be more records for Arch' & Marion's children than for Robert's - I've only managed to identify 4 with any certainty, including my 3xgg John (m. Eliz. Dick), Agnes, Thomas (m. Marion Brownlie - they immigrated to Canada but have one child buried at Cambusnethan), and Violet who died fairly young (and possibly the other Robert who also died 1851 but I'm not sure).
So maybe the Halliday grave marker identified in the Old Carluke burial ground belongs to these 2 Halliday families collectively. Archibald died in 1840, 11 years before his brother. In any event,  Robert "Hallowday" was apparently buried in Carluke as was his daughter Violet, so likely others of that family as well, including my John (1804–1853) and at least some of his children.

I've not found siblings for Arch and Robert, both born in Killin, Perth to Thomas Halliday and Anne Campbell... I wonder if your nephew has had better luck!

In the past you shared the Halliday related burials in Cambusnethan (mostly Arch's family group, but a few connected to John's and Elizabeth's children as well. I those have been really helpful!!

You mentioned that 'there are a few Leggat's in Cambusnethan cemetery, also in the old burial ground adjoining the cemetery and in the small private burial ground there. Also in the ancient Cambusnethan churchyard at Kirkhill."

John's daughter Agnes Halliday married James Leggat (1841-1921)  that's where Leggat fits into the picture! Although they migrated to Cumberland, after Agnes died, he returned to  Wishaw where he was born. I don't know where he was buried.
As far as I know his parents James Leggat and Jane Frew both died in Dalziel (in 1880 and 1901 respectively) So I guess those dates are too late for the old burying ground?
James sr. was born around 1816 (possibly Cambusnethan) to yet another James Leggat, a soldier, (variant spellings abound) and Janet Gilchrist. I don't know when or where those two died but I figure Dalziel or even a Cambusnethan area cemeteries are possibilities.  I only have their names because of James (1816-1880)'s death record, so I don't know if he had siblings but I figure I probably did. In short, I'm still very much in the dark about this generation!

BTW I have been able to identify the parents of the Catherine Frew Liddell buried in Dalziel - they were Robert Frew and Mary Hunt... no direct connections to my Frew line... yet!

I suppose there must be quite a few old cemeteries that I know nothing about ... I'm still trying to get a handle on all then names of villages that crop up in my family's records - It's hard to get a sense of it all from across the ocean!!

As always, thanks for your help and also providing an opportunity to share information on the forum!!

ard

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW - Part 2
« on: Monday 22 September 25 13:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lodger
Since my first posting on this subject way back in 2011, I have, over the succeeding years, gathered quite a few new pictures and, unfortunately, lost one or two as well!
Here are the new additions and, at the end, the ones I have managed to make disappear from the files![/b]
I am researching the HENDRY, GRAY & KING family group which is included in your list.

Has anyone already asked about this? (I did a search but was unable to locate it, if so) I have Robert Hendry as the son of Robert and Ann (King), married to Margaret Gray (I was thinking she may have been the daughter of James Gray and Helen Swan but I am unable to corroborate this).
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks so much!


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Ireland / Re: Samuel Cowan
« on: Saturday 20 September 25 13:16 BST (UK)  »
(Marriage record transcript)
Magheradroll Parish Church, Ballynahinch, according to the Rites and Ceremonies United Church of England, 1st day of January 1852
Hugh Boyd  25yrs bachelor, Labourer of Ballycreen (Magheradrool), father Robert Boyd, Labourer; Mary Cowan, full age, spinster of Magheranock (Magheradrool), father Samuel Cowan, Weaver. Witnesses James (?), Robert McSwaine

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Ireland / Re: Samuel Cowan
« on: Saturday 20 September 25 13:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi shanreagh - This is what I had sent to the original poster in a PM

Samuel Cowan was a weaver and appears in the Griffith Valuation records in Magheranock (parish Magheradrool). He is renting from Samuel Gillespie who in turn is a tenant of David S Ker. (Samuel's name also happens to appear a few lines above my Alexander Ferguson, so perhaps they even knew each other - I also have Boyd ancestry but they were in Ballymurphy in the mid 19th century)
https://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=083082&path=./pix/083/&showpage=1&mysession=2992235897390&width=&height=&debug=

The following is the marriage record for Mary and Hugh, which can be accessed from here https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=8f6abc883a-2035823

Mary had at least one brother, James https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/P73B-NN7

If you are interested in what lives may have been like in Ballynahinch area, I recommend the videos by a local historian uploaded to YouTube by the "Rowallane & Slieve Croob Community Twinning Group," which give a good overview of the evolution of the area, particularly the series called "Ballynahinch buildings a Chronology 1-2-3.." - which isn't just about buildings but the area's history as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26tgnyNsfAY )  - the one about the Battle of Ballynahinch is informative too!
Good luck!

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Ireland / Re: Samuel Cowan
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 01:00 BST (UK)  »
Samuel Cowan
« on: Monday 06 August 18 21:41 BST (UK) »

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>>>>Hi looking for some help traced back to a Samuel Cowan he is the father of Mary Cowan and she was married to Hugh Boyd I have found out Mary was born 1834 not sure where but she was married in Northern Ireland<<<<<

Seems this original post was hijacked! I feel it has closed down any response that may/could have come to light,  I am interested in this Samuel Cowan post.
Yes, I agree and I'm very sorry about that. It hadn't been my intention  :-[

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 00:38 BST (UK)  »
... I have the transcriptions and a list of plot owners for South Dalziel churchyard ...
Hi Lodger! Regarding your above comment, I was wondering if you have seen the surname Leggat or Frew among the plot owners. Dalziel is where some of my ancestors lived and died. And if not in the South Dalziel graveyard, is there any way to find out about the plots in older Dalziel burying ground?
I am also interested in the old Carluke graveyard, especially with respect to my Halliday ancestors, but others too. Do you know if any book of plot owners exists for that?
Thanks in advance,
ard

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Completed Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Requests / Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« on: Thursday 23 January 25 04:47 GMT (UK)  »
(So much for Wikipedia!) Thanks again for clearing some of that up for me.

I was thinking more of Bacchus in the pub's name as a family connection to Selby. I expect that the names endured longer than the publicans!


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Completed Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Requests / Re: Bacchus 1851 please
« on: Saturday 18 January 25 17:53 GMT (UK)  »
Mark, thanks for your information!
Really interesting about the public house called Bacchus & Barrel in Micklegate, Selby.

From what I have been able to find, Selby is in North Yorkshire (being from across the pond, I'm not at all familiar with the intricacies of Yorkshire ridings).

While, the census information has Isaac Bacchus being born in Hull (East Riding for anyone not familiar), it doesn't mean that his family ties do not extend to Selby. Something to look into, anyway!

Nevertheless, it appears that Isaac was baptized June 15, 1803 (Holy Trinity, Hull) son of William and Mary Bacchus and that he had at least two siblings, Mary (1793) and William (1801). I have no more information on the siblings but it may even be that William was responsible for the pub in Selby, although this doesn't really fit the early dates associated with the pub being in the hands of Samuel coats. I have no idea how common the Bacchus (with its various spellings) surname was in Yorkshire.

Cheers
 

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