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Devon / Re: Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Thursday 04 March 10 09:54 GMT (UK)  »
thanks Jan,
I think i'm of the same opinion, How i wish we could just ask them! My Grandmother lived to a very good age, with great hindsight I wish I'd sat down and asked the right questions...oh well.
Again, many thanks

Sue

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Devon / Re: Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 22:39 GMT (UK)  »
Jan...confusing it is!
My Grandfather (again Thomas Henry, is in Bristol in 1911, he married my Grandmother Alice Weir (weare/Ware) on Christmas Day 1911.His father is listed as Thomas Bale, deceased, Bricklayer.The profession fits all the censuses, he is listed as a Bricklayer.
I'm confused! and the 1901 census showing Thomas Henry in Marylebone London as a Bricklayer, with another wife is even more confusing. Especially as the place of birth is Exeter, which is correct, and the son Thomas Henry is the right age.
Oh well, it's not meant to be easy.
thanks again for everyones thoughts.

Sue

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Devon / Re: Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 16:41 GMT (UK)  »
thanks for all your suggestions. Violet is on the 1881 census as Maud Gribble -nurse child. On the Marriage certificate, obviously there is no father listed as she was illigitimate. I know her mother was Eliza Gribble, who was a Head Nurse at a Mental Hospital, she retired on a nurses pension, and died in the 1920's. She's buried in a family plot. On her Death Certificate, my Grandfather Thomas Bale is listed as her Grandson.
What confuses me is Thomas is born on the 23rd march 1890, to Thomas Henry and Rosa Bale. and in our family Bible, my Grandfathers birthday is that Date...So we have undisputed links to both ladies.

Sue

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Devon / Re: Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 11:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all your thoughts! True, they are both  flowery names, and thanks floggle toggle, for the link to the marriageable ages, I didn't have a clue it was legal to marry so young. That's one problem solved.
any other thoughts I'd appreciate, I've never been so stuck!
Guess I need to unravel a few more threads....

sue

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Devon / Re: Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
thanks for the reply, I'd thought about that, but Violet's surname was Gribble (her mother was Eliza Gribble) and Rosa's was Mann. It's really annoying me!

Sue

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Devon / Help please! I'm confused.
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
I have a family Bible, with an ancestor (my  Dad's side) listed as violet maud Beale. D.O.B. 11 April 1875. she was illegitimate, and I've found her as a nurse-child (Violet Gribble)  on a previous census. her mother Eliza Gribble is buried in a family plot. I have her marriage certificate, to Thomas Henry Beal. a bricklayer  9th Nov 1889, showing her age then as 20 years old. (that means if she lied about her age or married very underage.)
My main query is: I've found her on the 1911 census as a widow, visiting in Bristol, however, my Grandfather , who I assumed was her son, was born 23rd march 1890, to Thomas Henry Bale (a bricklayer) but the mother was named on the Birth Certificate as Rosa (nee Mann). this is the date of my Grandfathers birth, it's also in the family Bible. How can Thomas be married to Violet in 1889 and have a wife called Rosa in 1890? with a verified link to my family? To add to the confusion, 2 of the witnesses of Violet and Thomas's marriage in 1889, were from the Mann family.
The family name has changed over the years, Beal/Beale/Bale.
I don't know how to unravel this...any ideas/help would be most appreciated.

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Kent Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Shorncliffe Military Garrison/Convict Camp
« on: Thursday 19 November 09 10:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Steve
Thanks to a previous reply from one of the members on here, (who are always so helpful) they posted a link to the National Archives, the actual register of convicts, and for a small payment, I downloaded the actual page of the register Isaac was listed on. If you look at the previous postings to my original query, you can copy the link.

Regards

Sue

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Bridewell Prison Bristol 1851 census
« on: Sunday 02 August 09 18:18 BST (UK)  »
hi, I wonder if anyone can help?
I found one of my Great-Great Grandfathers on the 1851 census, in Bridewell Prison Bristol listed as a Prisoner....(second convict i've found so far!)  What i'd like to know is if i could find out what he was charged with? Another ancestor was a 'lifer', and I got the details from the National Archives, but I seem to have drawn a blank here. My GG Grandfather was John Ware. (although the name changed gradually to Weir in the 20th Century.)

Many thanks for any info you may be able to give!

sue

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Devon / Re: Beal/Beale/Bale
« on: Thursday 25 June 09 17:29 BST (UK)  »
gosh...hadn't thought of that one!  Thanks, i'll do some digging!
James Mann was a witness at the wedding in 1889, so there certainly might be some tie-in.

Thanks again

Sue

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