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Kilkenny / Re: How do you find out more ?
« on: Monday 02 November 09 13:18 GMT (UK)  »
I can exclude my great great grandfather of Monabrogue, Ballylarkin, Kilkenny as he was not a labourer but a farmer.

Use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml to see in what kind of building your James Butler lived in. People with many acres are farmers. A an acre or so would make them a subsistence farmer. A house with a yard would make them a wage earner.

If your ancestor was a labourer then it is unlikely that he had land as he would have no use for it and probably couldn't afford the rent.

It could also be that he rented a room from someone who is a tenant listed on Griffiths in which case you will never find him.

Good luck with your search.

James Butler.

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Kilkenny / Re: Barna Post Office, Freshford
« on: Wednesday 25 October 06 13:16 BST (UK)  »
Ummm.

Do you know Patrick and Elizabeth Lawrence?

My father's recollections are a little embarassing.

We (the Butlers) had another farm in Knocknamuck (in addition to our one in Barna), which we rented out to the Lawrence family.

They failed to keep up with the payments so we evicted them.  :-[

It is Elizabeth Lawrence that I remember in the pub/post office. Is she your mother?

The pub is now called Kenny's Bar though the locals all remember it as Lawrence's (pron. Lah-rences)

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Kilkenny / Re: Barna Post Office, Freshford
« on: Wednesday 25 October 06 00:21 BST (UK)  »
I was in the post office as a child. It wasn't in Freshford but in Barna which is halfway between Freshford and Johnstown.

I remember Mrs Lawrence before she died and the post office (which was connected to a pub) was sold on.

The post office was closed and the pub was redeveloped into the OK Coral.

I think the Kenny family still own it.

I'll ask my dad tomorrow morning for the information you need.

James Butler.

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